[DUG] So off-topic it's ridiculous

Fri Jan 29 16:21:28 NZDT 2010

is watching builds run better than dogs? do you bet on the winners?

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Conor Boyd <Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz>wrote:

>  Ouch.
>
> The only time I've actually been knocked off my bike was by another
> cyclist. ;-)
>
> Using Delphi today?  Sure.  Although most of today was spent testing on
> VPCs and watching builds run.
>
> C.
>
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *Kyley Harris
> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 4:04 p.m.
>
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] So off-topic it's ridiculous
>
> haha.. I drooled over the iPad for the time frame of 1 day while chatting..
> now I'll ignore it until I see a price.
>
> I used to love cycling in Auckland before I had to raise my child alone and
> ran out of time. Mission Bay to Mt Albert was always a good ride. Lots of
> bad drivers to be careful of, but I use the same mindset as when I ride a
> motorcycle and luckily had no accidents on the Cycle.
>
> on the motorcycle 2 injuries by illegally u-turning Cars that didn't look.
> total time in bed 1.2 years.
>
> Using delphi for at least 7 hours a day.. youtube for at least 1 :D
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz>wrote:
>
>>  Are there any Delphi users on this list actually using Delphi right now
>> or are we all too busy drooling over Apple products that Delphi doesn’t
>> support and getting our knickers in a twist over road transport issues?
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> But since everyone else has chimed in, my contribution on the cycling
>> issue…
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the annual registration, licensing, insurance and WOF costs for
>> your bicycle?
>>
>>
>>
>> “free” – as usual - comes with a price.
>>
>>
>>
>> I ride my bicycle **occasionally** for leisure – I would very much like
>> the roads to be more bicycle friendly, but I don’t expect that to happen for
>> free.  In the meantime I ride my bicycle where it is safe and permitted to
>> do so.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also do not presume to judge someone simply for being alone in their
>> vehicle.  I do not know how far they have had to travel or how much further
>> they have yet to go.  Bicycles are simply not practical for long journey’s,
>> and not everyone has the benefit of a workplace equipped with shower
>> facilities.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also do not know what equipment or materiel the driver may be carrying
>> in their boot or in the vehicle with them, that may simply be impossible to
>> carry on a bicycle or even a moped.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even if they do not have far to travel to get to their workplace, I would
>> not presume to think that they might not have to make a more substantial
>> journey – or be available/capable of making a journey – later in the day, or
>> have to be able to travel to a customer site or meeting as quickly as
>> legally possible to minimize the impact of travel time on their working day.
>>
>>
>>
>> And in Auckland anyone needing to cross the harbour bridge to get to/from
>> work or during the course of their working day simply cannot afford the
>> planet the luxury of a bicycle, or even a moped under a certain engine
>> capacity – the law simply won’t allow it.  (should the law change to allow
>> it?  maybe, but currently it doesn’t).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But why let such practical considerations get in the way of a sense of
>> moral superiority, eh?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If only everyone lived within practical cycling distance of their work and
>> nobody had to do a job that involved anything more than staying in one place
>> all day waiting to cycle home.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, that itself would all come at a price too – you would lose
>> mobility of labour and much of the choice that you currently enjoy in the
>> range of possible workplaces you may be employed or areas that you may
>> choose to live.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We may dream of a return to the lifestyle of a pastoral society, but it’s
>> simply not going to happen, at least not until the oil runs out and we’re
>> forced into it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
>> *On Behalf Of *Leigh Wanstead
>> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 3:35 p.m.
>> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
>>
>>
>>
>> I ride bicycle in Auckland  around 10 years. Auckland road is not fit for
>> riding bicycle. Most road does not have proper cycle way. The cycle way is
>> not continuous. And the road suppose to ride bicycle is only around 20 cm
>> wide and shared with cars. And car runs very fast. It is so easy to be hit
>> by the car in Auckland. I guess riding bicycle is far more easy to be killed
>> than driving car. So to look after myself not to be hit by the car, riding
>> on pavement is quite acceptable. Anyway the pavement most of the time is
>> empty.
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw most car have four seats and only one driver sitting in the car
>> which wastes lots of natural resource moving around. Remember we only have
>> one earth to live.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
>> *On Behalf Of *Cameron Hart
>> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 2:27 p.m.
>> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
>>
>>
>>
>> Imho it is not getting stuck behind bikes that gets car drivers irate, but
>> the flaunting of the road rules demonstrated by cyclists.  Car drivers start
>> thinking it is unfair every time they see one ride through a red light, or
>> fail to indicate, or ride double/triple, or skip from road to footpath as it
>> suits, and unless everyones is following the same rules it starts to turn
>> into two sides – them against us.  You start resenting cyclists because they
>> are not following the rules you are required to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe they should address this imbalance by bringing into effect some
>> things like cycle licenses (so you know they are qualified and even know the
>> road rules), headlights, brake lights, and indicators.  Maybe they need a
>> WOF and cycle registration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bring us all onto an equal footing and more respect for cyclists might be
>> found.  It is easy to be tolerant of others when it is a level playing
>> field.
>>
>>
>>
>> cameron
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
>> *On Behalf Of *Robert martin
>> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 10:23 a.m.
>> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
>>
>>
>>
>> What an idiot.
>> I think what most of the nasty drivers forget is that for every cyclist on
>> the road its one less car for them to get stuck behind.  However I must
>> admit the Dyers pass road is terrible to drive up / down especially with the
>> Lycra brigade riding two a breast up a thin winding road.  No excuse for
>> nocking people off the road or for driving a hummer !
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/01/2010 9:53 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
>>
>> Basically the need for a bit more tolerance from both cyclists and
>> car-drivers to sharing the road.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exacerbated this week by a guy who lives in Cashmere, drives a black
>> Hummer (plate WARNIN with a surround that says "does not play well with
>> others"), and who posted online this week that he had knocked 2 cyclists
>> into the kerb in the last 6 months and was quite prepared to do the same
>> again, but who subsequently half-heartedly apologised after he realised that
>> he was easily identifiable as Richard Freeman, the co-owner of the Sign of
>> the Takahe cafe/restaurant and a number of other businesses who look like
>> they will be taking a bit of a dent in patronage from now on.
>>
>>
>>
>> Front page news in the Press on Wednesday I think it was.
>>
>>
>>
>> Following by an alleged case of car-passenger assault on a cyclist at the
>> bottom of Dyers Pass Road yesterday morning.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neither side are completely blameless, and it's a small minority on either
>> side who make it seem more of a car/cyclist war than it actually is, or than
>> it should be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, I'm glad I've got a commute that mostly sticks to quieter
>> roads than the main arteries.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.
>>
>>
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>>
>> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz<delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Robert martin
>>
>>
>> I come in from the other side (St Albans).  Whats happening in Cashmere?
>> I'm obviously out of the loop :)
>>
>> On 29/01/2010 9:23 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
>>
>> Likewise.
>>
>>
>>
>> Although we won't mention the current Cashmere-based shenanigans.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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