[DUG] So off-topic it's ridiculous

Alister Christie alister at salespartner.co.nz
Fri Jan 29 16:33:46 NZDT 2010


Also using Delphi today - mostly looking for clean ways of 
parsing/scraping html. Yesterday I was learning Rails however. I'll 
either continue learning rails tonight or start sanding the toilet. 
Suffice to say that rails is much more appealing - boy I know how to 
party on a Friday night.

Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
http://www.salespartner.co.nz
PO Box 13085
Johnsonville
Wellington 



Conor Boyd wrote:
> Ouch.
> The only time I've actually been knocked off my bike was by another 
> cyclist. ;-)
> Using Delphi today? Sure. Although most of today was spent testing on 
> VPCs and watching builds run.
> C.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz 
> [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Kyley Harris
> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 4:04 p.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] So off-topic it's ridiculous
>
> haha.. I drooled over the iPad for the time frame of 1 day while 
> chatting.. now I'll ignore it until I see a price.
>
> I used to love cycling in Auckland before I had to raise my child 
> alone and ran out of time. Mission Bay to Mt Albert was always a good 
> ride. Lots of bad drivers to be careful of, but I use the same mindset 
> as when I ride a motorcycle and luckily had no accidents on the Cycle.
>
> on the motorcycle 2 injuries by illegally u-turning Cars that didn't 
> look. total time in bed 1.2 years.
>
> Using delphi for at least 7 hours a day.. youtube for at least 1 :D
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz 
> <mailto:jsmith at deltics.co.nz>> wrote:
>
>     Are there any Delphi users on this list actually using Delphi
>     right now or are we all too busy drooling over Apple products that
>     Delphi doesn’t support and getting our knickers in a twist over
>     road transport issues?
>
>     J
>
>     But since everyone else has chimed in, my contribution on the
>     cycling issue…
>
>     What are the annual registration, licensing, insurance and WOF
>     costs for your bicycle?
>
>     “free” – as usual - comes with a price.
>
>     I ride my bicycle **occasionally** for leisure – I would very much
>     like the roads to be more bicycle friendly, but I don’t expect
>     that to happen for free. In the meantime I ride my bicycle where
>     it is safe and permitted to do so.
>
>     I also do not presume to judge someone simply for being alone in
>     their vehicle. I do not know how far they have had to travel or
>     how much further they have yet to go. Bicycles are simply not
>     practical for long journey’s, and not everyone has the benefit of
>     a workplace equipped with shower facilities.
>
>     I also do not know what equipment or materiel the driver may be
>     carrying in their boot or in the vehicle with them, that may
>     simply be impossible to carry on a bicycle or even a moped.
>
>     Even if they do not have far to travel to get to their workplace,
>     I would not presume to think that they might not have to make a
>     more substantial journey – or be available/capable of making a
>     journey – later in the day, or have to be able to travel to a
>     customer site or meeting as quickly as legally possible to
>     minimize the impact of travel time on their working day.
>
>     And in Auckland anyone needing to cross the harbour bridge to get
>     to/from work or during the course of their working day simply
>     cannot afford the planet the luxury of a bicycle, or even a moped
>     under a certain engine capacity – the law simply won’t allow it.
>     (should the law change to allow it? maybe, but currently it doesn’t).
>
>     But why let such practical considerations get in the way of a
>     sense of moral superiority, eh?
>
>     If only everyone lived within practical cycling distance of their
>     work and nobody had to do a job that involved anything more than
>     staying in one place all day waiting to cycle home.
>
>     Of course, that itself would all come at a price too – you would
>     lose mobility of labour and much of the choice that you currently
>     enjoy in the range of possible workplaces you may be employed or
>     areas that you may choose to live.
>
>     We may dream of a return to the lifestyle of a pastoral society,
>     but it’s simply not going to happen, at least not until the oil
>     runs out and we’re forced into it.
>
>     *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Leigh Wanstead
>     *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 3:35 p.m.
>     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>     *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
>
>     I ride bicycle in Auckland around 10 years. Auckland road is not
>     fit for riding bicycle. Most road does not have proper cycle way.
>     The cycle way is not continuous. And the road suppose to ride
>     bicycle is only around 20 cm wide and shared with cars. And car
>     runs very fast. It is so easy to be hit by the car in Auckland. I
>     guess riding bicycle is far more easy to be killed than driving
>     car. So to look after myself not to be hit by the car, riding on
>     pavement is quite acceptable. Anyway the pavement most of the time
>     is empty.
>
>     I saw most car have four seats and only one driver sitting in the
>     car which wastes lots of natural resource moving around. Remember
>     we only have one earth to live.
>
>     *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Hart
>     *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 2:27 p.m.
>     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>     *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
>
>     Imho it is not getting stuck behind bikes that gets car drivers
>     irate, but the flaunting of the road rules demonstrated by
>     cyclists. Car drivers start thinking it is unfair every time they
>     see one ride through a red light, or fail to indicate, or ride
>     double/triple, or skip from road to footpath as it suits, and
>     unless everyones is following the same rules it starts to turn
>     into two sides – them against us. You start resenting cyclists
>     because they are not following the rules you are required to.
>
>     Maybe they should address this imbalance by bringing into effect
>     some things like cycle licenses (so you know they are qualified
>     and even know the road rules), headlights, brake lights, and
>     indicators. Maybe they need a WOF and cycle registration.
>
>     Bring us all onto an equal footing and more respect for cyclists
>     might be found. It is easy to be tolerant of others when it is a
>     level playing field.
>
>     cameron
>
>     *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Robert martin
>     *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 10:23 a.m.
>     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>     *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
>
>     What an idiot.
>     I think what most of the nasty drivers forget is that for every
>     cyclist on the road its one less car for them to get stuck behind.
>     However I must admit the Dyers pass road is terrible to drive up /
>     down especially with the Lycra brigade riding two a breast up a
>     thin winding road. No excuse for nocking people off the road or
>     for driving a hummer !
>
>     Rob
>
>
>     On 29/01/2010 9:53 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
>
>     Basically the need for a bit more tolerance from both cyclists and
>     car-drivers to sharing the road.
>
>     Exacerbated this week by a guy who lives in Cashmere, drives a
>     black Hummer (plate WARNIN with a surround that says "does not
>     play well with others"), and who posted online this week that he
>     had knocked 2 cyclists into the kerb in the last 6 months and was
>     quite prepared to do the same again, but who subsequently
>     half-heartedly apologised after he realised that he was easily
>     identifiable as Richard Freeman, the co-owner of the Sign of the
>     Takahe cafe/restaurant and a number of other businesses who look
>     like they will be taking a bit of a dent in patronage from now on.
>
>     Front page news in the Press on Wednesday I think it was.
>
>     Following by an alleged case of car-passenger assault on a cyclist
>     at the bottom of Dyers Pass Road yesterday morning.
>
>     Neither side are completely blameless, and it's a small minority
>     on either side who make it seem more of a car/cyclist war than it
>     actually is, or than it should be.
>
>     Personally, I'm glad I've got a commute that mostly sticks to
>     quieter roads than the main arteries.
>
>     C.
>
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>
>     *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Robert martin
>
>     I come in from the other side (St Albans). Whats happening in
>     Cashmere? I'm obviously out of the loop :)
>
>     On 29/01/2010 9:23 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
>
>         Likewise.
>
>         Although we won't mention the current Cashmere-based shenanigans.
>
>      
>
>      
>
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