[DUG] Conversion training

[Colin Johnsun]

Forgot to mention you can get a free 10-day trial just to see if the online
material match your needs.

Well worth a look.

Colin


On 19 November 2013 17:18, Colin Johnsun <colin.adug at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> This time, I'll be constructive :P
>
> I've found that some on-line training courses to be of great help.
>
> Personally, I've have a yearly subscription to Pluralsight (
> www.pluralsight.com).
>
> This has an amazing number of quality on-line courses and there are a
> large number of .net courses.
>
> These courses cover from the basic fundamentals to advance stuff on
> various .net frameworks and libraries.
>
> On a cursory view of the pluralsight courses, I found a course on the
> fundamentals of VB.net.
>
> Unfortunately, you'll find that most courses (both on-line and
> face-to-face) tend to lean towards C# development.
>
> In any case the advantage of Pluralsight, is that the cost of subscription
> ($US299) is cheaper than sending a person onto a one-week .net training
> course ( > $1000).
> While, the training course is only for the one week, the Pluralsight
> subscription is for 12 months which mean you can revisit the online
> material as many times as you like in that 12 month period. Further, due to
> the many number of courses, you can take the course which matches to your
> level of knowledge and skip anything you feel is too basic and easy.
>
> So your colleague's company can get a business annual subscription for 3-4
> developers (US$299/person) for the same price as sending one developer for
> a one-week training course.
>
> Regards,
> Colin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 November 2013 14:48, <stephen at bertram.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> While I agree that switching Delphi to C# (or VB) is simple on the
>> surface, there are some significant differences in the libraries and the
>> approach to some issues is fundamentally different to get an optimal
>> result.  Hence my colleagues wish to hit the ground running with the best
>> roadmap he can.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> *From*: Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com>
>> *To*: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <
>> delphi at listserver.123.net.nz>
>> *Sent*: Tue, Nov 19, 2013, 4:40 PM
>> *Subject*: Re: [DUG] Conversion training
>>
>> I would agree. Don't do VB.net, move to C#. We do Delphi and C# and we
>> basically learnt C# on the job writing code for a specific project making
>> use of the plenty of good stuff on the net about how to do "stuff" in C#.
>> The transition from Delphi to C# is quite straight forward if not similar
>> (funnily enough). Once we learnt what we thought was enough we attended a
>> C# course to see what we did wrong :-)
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM, David Brennan <
>> dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> Remind me in a few years to short sell shares of whatever company you’re
>>> dealing with…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
>>> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *
>>> stephen at bertram.co.nz
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 November 2013 3:58 p.m.
>>>
>>> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi Lis
>>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Conversion training
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While we all agree with you that C# would be the way to go IF you have
>>> to go .Net, the powers that be (in Denmark) have decreed that VB is the be
>>> all and end all and they can get heaps of cheap Indian labour to cut code
>>> in it :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>> *From*: Colin Johnsun <colin.adug at gmail.com>
>>> *To*: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <
>>> delphi at listserver.123.net.nz>
>>> *Sent*: Tue, Nov 19, 2013, 3:47 PM
>>> *Subject*: Re: [DUG] Conversion training
>>>
>>> If you have to move to .Net, why not do it properly and move to C#???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You really can't seriously talk about "future" development and VB.Net in
>>> the same sentence without someone choking on their lunch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 November 2013 10:44, <stephen at bertram.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been asked by a colleague for a recommendation for a training
>>> organisation (or trainer) to lead a team on the conversion from Delphi to
>>> .Net in the Auckland area.  While the team is screaming at the change,
>>> the organisation has decreed that future development will be in (groan)
>>> VB.Net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of the organisations advertising .Net training are offering courses
>>> for beginning developers while what is needed is cross training for
>>> experienced Delphi guys.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone have any recommendations (other than find another job)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
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