[DUG] XE4 update

[Jeremy North]

You can't really compare the situations.

Google makes all of their money from licensing platforms and advertising
and keeping as much information about their users as they can store.
Microsoft charges for tools. They have a free version but most companies
pay for the tool for development.
Embarcadero charge more than $99 for their tools and they have questionable
quality at the moment and still demand a high price (although they have a
special every month it seems). They also have to license the SDK from
Microsoft (don't know about OS X or iOS sdk licensing).

For $99 from apple you get your apps tested and verified plus you get to
use their development tools which are heaps better than they used to be.
The dev tools are free, you don't need to be an OS X dev program member to
deploy for OS X unless you want to deploy in the app store.

I think its a pretty good deal.

We get screwed on currency conversion by all companies not just apple.
Although apple are generally the best. Our price is 99 AUD. However our
dollar has just dropped 10% in a couple of weeks so the prices will no
doubt rise a little more now. Too bad, I was looking forward to getting an
r2-d2 computer next.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok ok. Yeah, I haven’t paid the $99 us yet. Funny how Android is free and
> M$ is free…but Apple charge – but that’s another story that we wont go into
> J****
>
> The one thing I WILL say is, when I was looking at joining a few months
> back, $99 US was around $120 odd NZ…..on the Apple site when I went to
> purchase it was $144 ! So I quizzed them about it, and they just said
> exchange rates…..I said go to www.bnz.co.nz, currency calculator, and let
> it do that maths for you ! Then tell me where the extra $22 is coming from.
> I of course never heard back J But it did put me off.****
>
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> Jeremy****
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy North
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:21 p.m.
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> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] XE4 update****
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> The iOS 7 beta is available to all developers in the iOS dev program.
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> Sent from my iPhone****
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> On 13/06/2013, at 11:14 AM, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:***
> *
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> Jeremy, have you got a BETA version of iOS7 ?****
>
>  ****
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> Jeremy.C****
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> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Jeremy North <jeremy.north at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Debugging under iOS 7 is broken as well. Which is more of a worry to be
> honest.
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
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> On 13/06/2013, at 8:57 AM, "Conor Boyd" <Conor_Boyd at trimble.com> wrote:***
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> That’s not very reassuring commentary. ;-)****
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [
> mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz<delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jeremy North
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:53 a.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] XE4 update****
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>  ****
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> There is a 334mb patch file as well. Took 1 hour 14 mins to apply the
> update. ****
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>  ****
>
> Update 1 fixed a few major things but it is still very light on for fixes
> given the number needed. ****
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