<div dir="ltr">You can&#39;t really compare the situations.<div><br>Google makes all of their money from licensing platforms and advertising and keeping as much information about their users as they can store.</div><div style>
Microsoft charges for tools. They have a free version but most companies pay for the tool for development.</div><div style>Embarcadero charge more than $99 for their tools and they have questionable quality at the moment and still demand a high price (although they have a special every month it seems). They also have to license the SDK from Microsoft (don&#39;t know about OS X or iOS sdk licensing).</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>For $99 from apple you get your apps tested and verified plus you get to use their development tools which are heaps better than they used to be. The dev tools are free, you don&#39;t need to be an OS X dev program member to deploy for OS X unless you want to deploy in the app store.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I think its a pretty good deal. </div><div style><br></div><div style>We get screwed on currency conversion by all companies not just apple. Although apple are generally the best. Our price is 99 AUD. However our dollar has just dropped 10% in a couple of weeks so the prices will no doubt rise a little more now. Too bad, I was looking forward to getting an r2-d2 computer next.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Jeremy Coulter <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jscoulter@gmail.com" target="_blank">jscoulter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-NZ" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Ok ok. Yeah, I haven’t paid the $99 us yet. Funny how Android is free and M$ is free…but Apple charge – but that’s another story that we wont go into </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d"><span>J</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">The one thing I WILL say is, when I was looking at joining a few months back, $99 US was around $120 odd NZ…..on the Apple site when I went to purchase it was $144 ! So I quizzed them about it, and they just said exchange rates…..I said go to <a href="http://www.bnz.co.nz" target="_blank">www.bnz.co.nz</a>, currency calculator, and let it do that maths for you ! Then tell me where the extra $22 is coming from.<span>  </span>I of course never heard back </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d"><span>J</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"> But it did put me off.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Jeremy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="13f3c90408490bda__MailOriginal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b></a><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy North<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 June 2013 1:21 p.m.</span></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] XE4 update<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div>
<div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span>The iOS 7 beta is available to all developers in the iOS dev program.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span><span><br>On 13/06/2013, at 11:14 AM, Jeremy Coulter &lt;</span></span><a href="mailto:jscoulter@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span><span>jscoulter@gmail.com</span></span><span></span></a><span><span>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span>Jeremy, have you got a BETA version of iOS7 ?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span> <u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span>Jeremy.C<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span><span><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span><span>On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Jeremy North &lt;</span></span><a href="mailto:jeremy.north@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span><span>jeremy.north@gmail.com</span></span><span></span></a><span><span>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span>Debugging under iOS 7 is broken as well. Which is more of a worry to be honest. <br>
<br>Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span><span><br>On 13/06/2013, at 8:57 AM, &quot;Conor Boyd&quot; &lt;</span></span><a href="mailto:Conor_Boyd@trimble.com" target="_blank"><span><span>Conor_Boyd@trimble.com</span></span><span></span></a><span><span>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">That’s not very reassuring commentary. ;-)</span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b></span><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span></span><a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</span></span><span></span></a><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> [</span></span><a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank"><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</span></span><span></span></a><span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy North<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 June 2013 10:53 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] XE4 update</span><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>There is a 334mb patch file as well. Took 1 hour 14 mins to apply the update. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<span>Update 1 fixed a few major things but it is still very light on for fixes given the number needed. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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