[DUG] So off-topic it's ridiculous

Fri Jan 29 16:03:31 NZDT 2010

haha.. I drooled over the iPad for the time frame of 1 day while chatting..
now I'll ignore it until I see a price.

I used to love cycling in Auckland before I had to raise my child alone and
ran out of time. Mission Bay to Mt Albert was always a good ride. Lots of
bad drivers to be careful of, but I use the same mindset as when I ride a
motorcycle and luckily had no accidents on the Cycle.

on the motorcycle 2 injuries by illegally u-turning Cars that didn't look.
total time in bed 1.2 years.

Using delphi for at least 7 hours a day.. youtube for at least 1 :D

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:

>  Are there any Delphi users on this list actually using Delphi right now
> or are we all too busy drooling over Apple products that Delphi doesn’t
> support and getting our knickers in a twist over road transport issues?
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> J
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> But since everyone else has chimed in, my contribution on the cycling
> issue…
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> What are the annual registration, licensing, insurance and WOF costs for
> your bicycle?
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> “free” – as usual - comes with a price.
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> I ride my bicycle **occasionally** for leisure – I would very much like
> the roads to be more bicycle friendly, but I don’t expect that to happen for
> free.  In the meantime I ride my bicycle where it is safe and permitted to
> do so.
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> I also do not presume to judge someone simply for being alone in their
> vehicle.  I do not know how far they have had to travel or how much further
> they have yet to go.  Bicycles are simply not practical for long journey’s,
> and not everyone has the benefit of a workplace equipped with shower
> facilities.
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> I also do not know what equipment or materiel the driver may be carrying in
> their boot or in the vehicle with them, that may simply be impossible to
> carry on a bicycle or even a moped.
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> Even if they do not have far to travel to get to their workplace, I would
> not presume to think that they might not have to make a more substantial
> journey – or be available/capable of making a journey – later in the day, or
> have to be able to travel to a customer site or meeting as quickly as
> legally possible to minimize the impact of travel time on their working day.
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> And in Auckland anyone needing to cross the harbour bridge to get to/from
> work or during the course of their working day simply cannot afford the
> planet the luxury of a bicycle, or even a moped under a certain engine
> capacity – the law simply won’t allow it.  (should the law change to allow
> it?  maybe, but currently it doesn’t).
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> But why let such practical considerations get in the way of a sense of
> moral superiority, eh?
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> If only everyone lived within practical cycling distance of their work and
> nobody had to do a job that involved anything more than staying in one place
> all day waiting to cycle home.
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> Of course, that itself would all come at a price too – you would lose
> mobility of labour and much of the choice that you currently enjoy in the
> range of possible workplaces you may be employed or areas that you may
> choose to live.
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> We may dream of a return to the lifestyle of a pastoral society, but it’s
> simply not going to happen, at least not until the oil runs out and we’re
> forced into it.
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *Leigh Wanstead
> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 3:35 p.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
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> I ride bicycle in Auckland  around 10 years. Auckland road is not fit for
> riding bicycle. Most road does not have proper cycle way. The cycle way is
> not continuous. And the road suppose to ride bicycle is only around 20 cm
> wide and shared with cars. And car runs very fast. It is so easy to be hit
> by the car in Auckland. I guess riding bicycle is far more easy to be killed
> than driving car. So to look after myself not to be hit by the car, riding
> on pavement is quite acceptable. Anyway the pavement most of the time is
> empty.
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> I saw most car have four seats and only one driver sitting in the car which
> wastes lots of natural resource moving around. Remember we only have one
> earth to live.
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *Cameron Hart
> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 2:27 p.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
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> Imho it is not getting stuck behind bikes that gets car drivers irate, but
> the flaunting of the road rules demonstrated by cyclists.  Car drivers start
> thinking it is unfair every time they see one ride through a red light, or
> fail to indicate, or ride double/triple, or skip from road to footpath as it
> suits, and unless everyones is following the same rules it starts to turn
> into two sides – them against us.  You start resenting cyclists because they
> are not following the rules you are required to.
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> Maybe they should address this imbalance by bringing into effect some
> things like cycle licenses (so you know they are qualified and even know the
> road rules), headlights, brake lights, and indicators.  Maybe they need a
> WOF and cycle registration.
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> Bring us all onto an equal footing and more respect for cyclists might be
> found.  It is easy to be tolerant of others when it is a level playing
> field.
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> cameron
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *Robert martin
> *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2010 10:23 a.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT
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> What an idiot.
> I think what most of the nasty drivers forget is that for every cyclist on
> the road its one less car for them to get stuck behind.  However I must
> admit the Dyers pass road is terrible to drive up / down especially with the
> Lycra brigade riding two a breast up a thin winding road.  No excuse for
> nocking people off the road or for driving a hummer !
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> Rob
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> On 29/01/2010 9:53 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
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> Basically the need for a bit more tolerance from both cyclists and
> car-drivers to sharing the road.
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> Exacerbated this week by a guy who lives in Cashmere, drives a black Hummer
> (plate WARNIN with a surround that says "does not play well with others"),
> and who posted online this week that he had knocked 2 cyclists into the kerb
> in the last 6 months and was quite prepared to do the same again, but who
> subsequently half-heartedly apologised after he realised that he was easily
> identifiable as Richard Freeman, the co-owner of the Sign of the Takahe
> cafe/restaurant and a number of other businesses who look like they will be
> taking a bit of a dent in patronage from now on.
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> Front page news in the Press on Wednesday I think it was.
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> Following by an alleged case of car-passenger assault on a cyclist at the
> bottom of Dyers Pass Road yesterday morning.
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> Neither side are completely blameless, and it's a small minority on either
> side who make it seem more of a car/cyclist war than it actually is, or than
> it should be.
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> Personally, I'm glad I've got a commute that mostly sticks to quieter roads
> than the main arteries.
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> C.
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz<delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>]
> *On Behalf Of *Robert martin
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> I come in from the other side (St Albans).  Whats happening in Cashmere?
> I'm obviously out of the loop :)
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> On 29/01/2010 9:23 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote:
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> Likewise.
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> Although we won't mention the current Cashmere-based shenanigans.
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