[DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
Rodney Chan
rchan at compuspec.com
Tue Jan 12 14:51:22 NZDT 2010
1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was the
language)?
4. What other languages are you using learning?
(1) Yes; (2) Yes, D7 + Crystal Report 10; (3) Yes, php and C#; (4) same as
(3).
Rodney Chan
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (David Brennan)
2. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Paul A Norman)
3. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Sean Cross)
4. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Colin Fraser)
5. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Xander (GMail))
6. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Jeremy Coulter)
7. Re: What is the future for Delphi programmer? (Conor Boyd)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:39 +1300
From: "David Brennan" <dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. None (no time)
There are a lot of businesses like us with established software and
libraries written in Delphi. There is absolutely no compelling reason for us
to switch to another language, or even start some new projects in another
language, while there are huge reasons why we shouldn't (ie the huge amount
of experience and code we already have in Delphi).
If new versions of Delphi suck then that might make me think more carefully
about it, and when Delphi 8-2006 were the new releases I certainly had some
doubts. Now though I think Embarcadero are doing a reasonable job of
extending and improving Delphi, even if I disagree with some of the
priorities (Project X is probably a waste of time IMO but we have had that
discussion already!).
Cheers,
David.
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Sent: Tuesday, 12 January 2010 11:48 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers - all
that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need to
be maintained. However, the question that should be asked is how many
people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java /
Ruby etc).
It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming)
usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C# or
Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and demand.
All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.
I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been just
enhancing our existing products. I've just started learning Ruby on
Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start
something with this year.
How about other people:
1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was
the language)?
4. What other languages are you using learning?
My Answers
1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
Alister Christie
Computers for People
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Wellington
Leigh Wanstead wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for cobol
programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this situation, what
about Delphi programmer?
>
> TIA
>
> Regards
> Leigh
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:31:42 +1300
From: Paul A Norman <paul.a.norman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes php (web and desktop)
4. One stop - Linux, Mac, PC coverd by 'Titanium' ... "Build SOA and
RIA apps quickly." "Build native apps for iPhone and Android." "HTML,
JavaScript, CSS, Python, PHP and Ruby .. for developing mobile and
desktop applications using products and services from Appcelerator. "
OpenSource framework: http://www.appcelerator.com/products/
Possibly use Delphi for specialised support needs - like dlls for php
for windows.
Would love to do more in Delphi ...
Paul
2010/1/12 Jeremy North <jeremy.north at gmail.com>:
> Comparing cobol and Delphi developers is a little unfair. I work with
> about 30 cobol developers and the only thing they are good for is
> making fun of them (lol)!!!
>
> Delphi skills are more transferable to other languages.
>
> 1. Yes
> 2. Yes
> 3. Yes (C# and Objective-C)
> 4. C# and Objective-C
>
> I had a look at Ruby and Rails last year when I was going to rewrite
> my website in it. Got side tracked with more important things.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Alister Christie
> <alister at salespartner.co.nz> wrote:
>> I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers - all
>> that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need to
>> be maintained. ?However, the question that should be asked is how many
>> people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java /
>> Ruby etc).
>>
>> It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming)
>> usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C# or
>> Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and demand.
>> All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.
>>
>> I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been just
>> enhancing our existing products. ?I've just started learning Ruby on
>> Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start
>> something with this year.
>>
>> How about other people:
>>
>> 1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
>>
>> 2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
>>
>> 3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was
>> the language)?
>>
>> 4. What other languages are you using learning?
>>
>> My Answers
>> 1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
>>
>> Alister Christie
>> Computers for People
>> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
>> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
>> PO Box 13085
>> Johnsonville
>> Wellington
>>
>>
>>
>> Leigh Wanstead wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for
cobol programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this situation,
what about Delphi programmer?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Leigh
>>>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:30:47 +1300
From: Sean Cross <Sean.Cross at catalystrisk.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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1 Yes
2 No
3 Yes c#
http://sourceitsoftware.blogspot.com/2009/11/why-i-am-moving-from-delphi-to-
net.html
4 Python
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:03:30 +1300
From: Colin Fraser <colin.fraser at hill-labs.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi at delphi.org.nz>
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1: Yes - Maintaining Delphi Apps
2: No - No new Delphi Apps
3: Yes, Java
4: Just Java... lots to learn with all the different stacks available...
Regards
Colin
On 12/01/2010, at 11:47 AM, Alister Christie wrote:
> I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers - all
> that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need to
> be maintained. However, the question that should be asked is how many
> people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java /
> Ruby etc).
>
> It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming)
> usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C# or
> Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and demand.
> All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.
>
> I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been just
> enhancing our existing products. I've just started learning Ruby on
> Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start
> something with this year.
>
> How about other people:
>
> 1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
>
> 2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
>
> 3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was
> the language)?
>
> 4. What other languages are you using learning?
>
> My Answers
> 1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington
>
>
>
> Leigh Wanstead wrote:
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for cobol
programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this situation, what
about Delphi programmer?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Regards
>> Leigh
>>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:18:38 +1300
From: "Xander \(GMail\)" <xandervdm at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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1: Yes - minor maintenance of Delphi applications
2: No - nothing planned either
3: Yes, C# (and a little PHP)
4: Just C# (and a little PHP when required)
Cheers
Xander
On 12/01/2010, at 11:47 AM, Alister Christie wrote:
> I think there is still plenty of work around for Delphi developers - all
> that Delphi code out there isn't just going to go away and will need to
> be maintained. However, the question that should be asked is how many
> people are starting new projects in Delphi (as opposed to C# / Java /
> Ruby etc).
>
> It's my understanding that specialized skills (Delphi Programming)
> usually demand higher rewards as opposed to commodity programming (C# or
> Java), but I guess it's mostly going to come down to supply and demand.
> All the same - it's probably worth learning another language.
>
> I haven't started any kind of new project for awhile, and have been just
> enhancing our existing products. I've just started learning Ruby on
> Rails (although haven't gotten very far as yet), which I hope to start
> something with this year.
>
> How about other people:
>
> 1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
>
> 2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
>
> 3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was
> the language)?
>
> 4. What other languages are you using learning?
>
> My Answers
> 1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington
>
>
>
> Leigh Wanstead wrote:
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I thought that I must ask this question. I only see one job ads for cobol
programmer in seek website. If cobol programmer face this situation, what
about Delphi programmer?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Regards
>> Leigh
>>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:20:30 +1300
From: Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
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1.Yes?
2. Yes. Have no Plans to dump Delphi in the immediate future
3.yes C#
4. C#
For our tool set/applications Delphi will feature promintly for some time to
come.
There some things I like and dont like about C#, but dont need to convert to
C# as it really doesnt give me any advantage for what we do.
However, I will still be doing things in C# like websites etc. I have found
ASP.NET using C# is quite good. Althought we have hit a few snags on the
current app, we are getting there :-)
Jeremy
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:37:26 +1300
From: "Conor Boyd" <Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz>
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1. Yes
2. No (although I've used it for a few in-house utilities and expect to
continue doing so)
3. No
4. C# (although Prism may be on the cards)
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On Behalf Of Alister Christie
How about other people:
1. Still maintaining Delphi code?
2. Started a new Delphi project in the last year?
3. Started a new project in another language in the last year (what was
the language)?
4. What other languages are you using learning?
My Answers
1. Yes, 2. No, 3. No, 4. C# (Compact Framework)
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