[DUG] Indy Smtp and XTRA

[Neven MacEwan]

Rohit

I must admit I'm trying not to feel a little smug, we have advised 
businesses to get their own domain name and email servers for
several years (using linux & sendmail) and that @xtra.co.nz was not a 
good business practice. The argument I always gave was that it makes
your business look more substantial, I never thought to add that "Xtra 
will reconfigure their email servers without consideration and
break your email for days" thou maybe I should now

N
> What Xtra did was to classify their users as home or business.  For 
> home users, outlook presumably sorts out the requirement of ssl.  And 
> business users are using mail servers so they have to use SSL 
> explicitly.  The problem is that there are many users that are 
> businesses without a mail server and home users with a mailserver.  
> They will have problems.  Add to that if you application does not 
> support SSL, then you are stuffed.
>
> At home, I run a mailserver called hamster. 
>
> It suddenly stopped working, it was still receiving some emails (not 
> all) but not sending any. 
>
> I tried the webmail - that did not work with IE or Firefox. 
>
> I  read the old emails from xtra, found one with a url link which 
> forced me to register for yahoo.  A page in the middle of the 
> registration told me to change the port numbers.  I did that but still 
> no luck.
>
> I had heard on the radio about business customers having problems, so 
> I enabled SSL3 on hamster.  Now the error message changed, but still 
> no luck.  Then I tried SSL2 and it burst into life.   When I 
> complained to the CEO, the reply was a link to their website - this 
> one tells you to use SSL :-)
>
> Basically, they still treat their customers like shit and act like a 
> monopoly.  They only reason I have not changed as that I dont want to 
> change my email address.  I will just have to get a domain name for my 
> emails.
>
>
> Tracey wrote:
>> I had to change my friend's setup over the weekend.  Some clients wont work
>> unless you set them to use sll & port 465, some they recommend stay on port
>> 25.  
>>
>> I don't understand their reasoning but it IS Xtra we are talking about. 
>>
>> What sort of w****ers change their smtp server address out of the blue and
>> leave unskilled users out in the cold??
>>
>>
>> Xtra
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
>> Behalf Of Bevan Edwards
>> Sent: Sunday, 26 August 2007 5:39 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Indy Smtp and XTRA
>>
>> Hi Sandeep,
>>
>> We don't use Indy, but we have had few problems connecting to Xtra since 
>> the change.  But what are you talking about with port 465?  SMTP uses 
>> port 25.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bevan
>>
>>
>> Sandeep Chandra wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am having difficulty connecting to xtra smtp server after they changed
>>>     
>> their smtp server to point to send.xtra.co.nz and port to 465.
>>   
>>> Has anyone managed to send emails using xtra after this change and if so
>>>     
>> could anyone please give an example of what needs to be done in order for
>> this to work.
>>   
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Sandeep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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