[DUG] Indy Smtp and XTRA

Rohit Gupta rohit at cfl.co.nz
Mon Aug 27 13:00:56 NZST 2007


What Xtra did was to classify their users as home or business.  For home 
users, outlook presumably sorts out the requirement of ssl.  And 
business users are using mail servers so they have to use SSL 
explicitly.  The problem is that there are many users that are 
businesses without a mail server and home users with a mailserver.  They 
will have problems.  Add to that if you application does not support 
SSL, then you are stuffed.

At home, I run a mailserver called hamster. 

It suddenly stopped working, it was still receiving some emails (not 
all) but not sending any. 

I tried the webmail - that did not work with IE or Firefox. 

I  read the old emails from xtra, found one with a url link which forced 
me to register for yahoo.  A page in the middle of the registration told 
me to change the port numbers.  I did that but still no luck.

I had heard on the radio about business customers having problems, so I 
enabled SSL3 on hamster.  Now the error message changed, but still no 
luck.  Then I tried SSL2 and it burst into life.   When I complained to 
the CEO, the reply was a link to their website - this one tells you to 
use SSL :-)

Basically, they still treat their customers like shit and act like a 
monopoly.  They only reason I have not changed as that I dont want to 
change my email address.  I will just have to get a domain name for my 
emails.


Tracey wrote:
> I had to change my friend's setup over the weekend.  Some clients wont work
> unless you set them to use sll & port 465, some they recommend stay on port
> 25.  
>
> I don't understand their reasoning but it IS Xtra we are talking about. 
>
> What sort of w****ers change their smtp server address out of the blue and
> leave unskilled users out in the cold??
>
>
> Xtra
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
> Behalf Of Bevan Edwards
> Sent: Sunday, 26 August 2007 5:39 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Indy Smtp and XTRA
>
> Hi Sandeep,
>
> We don't use Indy, but we have had few problems connecting to Xtra since 
> the change.  But what are you talking about with port 465?  SMTP uses 
> port 25.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bevan
>
>
> Sandeep Chandra wrote:
>   
>> Hi
>>
>> I am having difficulty connecting to xtra smtp server after they changed
>>     
> their smtp server to point to send.xtra.co.nz and port to 465.
>   
>> Has anyone managed to send emails using xtra after this change and if so
>>     
> could anyone please give an example of what needs to be done in order for
> this to work.
>   
>> Regards
>>
>> Sandeep
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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