[DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)

[Todd Martin]

I use Subversion too. It's great. I think a lot of companies in general
could benefit from using a document control system like you described.

I presume you have your repository accessible remotely via SVN server or
Apache server. What do you use for a front end? WebDAV, tortoise, or do you
drive it from the command line. Do you install the client on your client's
machine?

Todd.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neven MacEwan" <neven at mwk.co.nz>
To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)


> D
>
> I use subversion, not only for source control but also for application &
> report control, its great being able to go back and forth if a bug
> creeps in, also makes rolling out apps easier, go onto the client site
> and update
>
> Neven
>
> Dennis Chuah wrote:
> >
> > CVS is free, and SourceSafe is licensed by the number of concurrent
> > users who have write access to the repository.
> >
> > With CVS, contractors can check in through the web, and with VPN, there
> > is no excuse for the contractor to email code to you.  Make it their
> > responsibility to properly use the source control software.
> >
> >> You use source control that requires named licenses. Are you going to
by
> >> lots of licenses for all the contractors? Or like many companies. By 11
> >> licenses and call one CONTRACTOR. So all 20 contractors will appear as
> >> the same one.
> >
> > That would be illegal, wouldn't it?  If you have 10 contractors working
> > for you at the same time, you really need 10 additional licenses.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyley Harris"
> > <kyley at harrissoftware.com>
> > To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
> > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
> >
> >
> >>> for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or
> >>> therwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and
> >> leave
> >>> t up the source control to manage the who did what.
> >>
> >> That raises an interesting question.
> >>
> >> What source control are you using?
> >>
> >> Assume the following: say 10 in house developers, and 10 contractors
> >> (who change randomly and often) say 20 unique contractors per year.
> >>
> >> You use source control that requires named licenses. Are you going to
by
> >> lots of licenses for all the contractors? Or like many companies. By 11
> >> licenses and call one CONTRACTOR. So all 20 contractors will appear as
> >> the same one.
> >>
> >> Sometimes it comes down to economies of scale.
> >>
> >>
> >> Seconds Theory....
> >>
> >> You find some code and download it. Or a contractor works on it and
> >> emails it to you. You import it into Starteam or Other? Who is the
> >> auther? As far as starteam is concerned the importer wrote the code.
> >>
> >> I think anyone who said "you missed the point" was looking at this
> >> discussion based only on the experience of their current style of
> >> employment"
> >>
> >> There is no point other than this. The minute you write a piece of code
> >> that becomes available to anyone except you there will always be
someone
> >> who might assert the code is theirs, or remove copyrights. That's what
> >> copyright infringement is for.
> >>
> >> If you really want to feel safe just do your job better. If your code
is
> >> being used, thefted or other, consider it a bonus. It means you are
> >> better at your job and you will last longer. Those who suck as
> >> developers and need to infringe will end up working corporate anyway.
> >> Water off a ducks back, because you cant really sue in NZ.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> >> On Behalf Of Dennis Chuah
> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:51 p.m.
> >> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> >> Subject: Re: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
> >>
> >>
> >> Me thinks you are the one missing the point here.  Its not about pride
> >> but
> >> about using source control to document which programmer did what to the
> >> code.  It removes the need for programmers to sign code and is ample
> >> prove
> >> that you as a contractor has done what is required.
> >>
> >> I for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or
> >> otherwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and
> >> leave
> >> it up the source control to manage the who did what.
> >>
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