[DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)

Neven MacEwan neven at mwk.co.nz
Fri May 5 08:44:22 NZST 2006


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I use subversion, not only for source control but also for application & 
report control, its great being able to go back and forth if a bug 
creeps in, also makes rolling out apps easier, go onto the client site 
and update

Neven

Dennis Chuah wrote:
> 
> CVS is free, and SourceSafe is licensed by the number of concurrent 
> users who have write access to the repository.
> 
> With CVS, contractors can check in through the web, and with VPN, there 
> is no excuse for the contractor to email code to you.  Make it their 
> responsibility to properly use the source control software.
> 
>> You use source control that requires named licenses. Are you going to by
>> lots of licenses for all the contractors? Or like many companies. By 11
>> licenses and call one CONTRACTOR. So all 20 contractors will appear as
>> the same one.
> 
> That would be illegal, wouldn't it?  If you have 10 contractors working 
> for you at the same time, you really need 10 additional licenses.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyley Harris" 
> <kyley at harrissoftware.com>
> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:10 AM
> Subject: RE: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
> 
> 
>>> for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or
>>> therwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and
>> leave
>>> t up the source control to manage the who did what.
>>
>> That raises an interesting question.
>>
>> What source control are you using?
>>
>> Assume the following: say 10 in house developers, and 10 contractors
>> (who change randomly and often) say 20 unique contractors per year.
>>
>> You use source control that requires named licenses. Are you going to by
>> lots of licenses for all the contractors? Or like many companies. By 11
>> licenses and call one CONTRACTOR. So all 20 contractors will appear as
>> the same one.
>>
>> Sometimes it comes down to economies of scale.
>>
>>
>> Seconds Theory....
>>
>> You find some code and download it. Or a contractor works on it and
>> emails it to you. You import it into Starteam or Other? Who is the
>> auther? As far as starteam is concerned the importer wrote the code.
>>
>> I think anyone who said "you missed the point" was looking at this
>> discussion based only on the experience of their current style of
>> employment"
>>
>> There is no point other than this. The minute you write a piece of code
>> that becomes available to anyone except you there will always be someone
>> who might assert the code is theirs, or remove copyrights. That's what
>> copyright infringement is for.
>>
>> If you really want to feel safe just do your job better. If your code is
>> being used, thefted or other, consider it a bonus. It means you are
>> better at your job and you will last longer. Those who suck as
>> developers and need to infringe will end up working corporate anyway.
>> Water off a ducks back, because you cant really sue in NZ.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
>> On Behalf Of Dennis Chuah
>> Sent: Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:51 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
>>
>>
>> Me thinks you are the one missing the point here.  Its not about pride
>> but
>> about using source control to document which programmer did what to the
>> code.  It removes the need for programmers to sign code and is ample
>> prove
>> that you as a contractor has done what is required.
>>
>> I for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or
>> otherwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and
>> leave
>> it up the source control to manage the who did what.
>>
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