[DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)

Fri May 5 12:20:17 NZST 2006

Todd

Webserver is Linux/apache client tortoise, yes I install the
client on the client and encourage them to use it for critical docs

N

Todd Martin wrote:
> I use Subversion too. It's great. I think a lot of companies in general
> could benefit from using a document control system like you described.
> 
> I presume you have your repository accessible remotely via SVN server or
> Apache server. What do you use for a front end? WebDAV, tortoise, or do you
> drive it from the command line. Do you install the client on your client's
> machine?
> 
> Todd.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neven MacEwan" <neven at mwk.co.nz>
> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
> 
> 
>> D
>>
>> I use subversion, not only for source control but also for application &
>> report control, its great being able to go back and forth if a bug
>> creeps in, also makes rolling out apps easier, go onto the client site
>> and update
>>
>> Neven
>>
>> Dennis Chuah wrote:
>>> CVS is free, and SourceSafe is licensed by the number of concurrent
>>> users who have write access to the repository.
>>>
>>> With CVS, contractors can check in through the web, and with VPN, there
>>> is no excuse for the contractor to email code to you.  Make it their
>>> responsibility to properly use the source control software.
>>>
>>>> You use source control that requires named licenses. Are you going to
> by
>>>> lots of licenses for all the contractors? Or like many companies. By 11
>>>> licenses and call one CONTRACTOR. So all 20 contractors will appear as
>>>> the same one.
>>> That would be illegal, wouldn't it?  If you have 10 contractors working
>>> for you at the same time, you really need 10 additional licenses.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyley Harris"
>>> <kyley at harrissoftware.com>
>>> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:10 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
>>>
>>>
>>>>> for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or
>>>>> therwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and
>>>> leave
>>>>> t up the source control to manage the who did what.
>>>> That raises an interesting question.
>>>>
>>>> What source control are you using?
>>>>
>>>> Assume the following: say 10 in house developers, and 10 contractors
>>>> (who change randomly and often) say 20 unique contractors per year.
>>>>
>>>> You use source control that requires named licenses. Are you going to
> by
>>>> lots of licenses for all the contractors? Or like many companies. By 11
>>>> licenses and call one CONTRACTOR. So all 20 contractors will appear as
>>>> the same one.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it comes down to economies of scale.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seconds Theory....
>>>>
>>>> You find some code and download it. Or a contractor works on it and
>>>> emails it to you. You import it into Starteam or Other? Who is the
>>>> auther? As far as starteam is concerned the importer wrote the code.
>>>>
>>>> I think anyone who said "you missed the point" was looking at this
>>>> discussion based only on the experience of their current style of
>>>> employment"
>>>>
>>>> There is no point other than this. The minute you write a piece of code
>>>> that becomes available to anyone except you there will always be
> someone
>>>> who might assert the code is theirs, or remove copyrights. That's what
>>>> copyright infringement is for.
>>>>
>>>> If you really want to feel safe just do your job better. If your code
> is
>>>> being used, thefted or other, consider it a bonus. It means you are
>>>> better at your job and you will last longer. Those who suck as
>>>> developers and need to infringe will end up working corporate anyway.
>>>> Water off a ducks back, because you cant really sue in NZ.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Chuah
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:51 p.m.
>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Me thinks you are the one missing the point here.  Its not about pride
>>>> but
>>>> about using source control to document which programmer did what to the
>>>> code.  It removes the need for programmers to sign code and is ample
>>>> prove
>>>> that you as a contractor has done what is required.
>>>>
>>>> I for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or
>>>> otherwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and
>>>> leave
>>>> it up the source control to manage the who did what.
>>>>
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