[DUG] iOS 64bit

Fri Jan 30 08:37:03 NZDT 2015

You *could* raise the issue of decompiling, but to do so to suggest that
Delphi is not vulnerable in this regard would be mistaken.

If you're interested, here's a list of Delphi decompilers (though
decompiling an EXE to any source language is possible to some extent, these
tools also incorporate specific knowledge of things like the DFM resources
embedded in a Delphi app, specifically):

http://delphi.about.com/od/devutilities/a/decompiling_3.htm

On 30 January 2015 at 07:20, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:

> On might also raise the issue about decompiling.. C# apps can be
> decompiled into readable c# code, Java too, but you cant decompile a Delphi
> app. into anything thats of much use. That there is a security issue for C#
> and Java IMHO.
>
> Jeremy
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:45 PM, David Brennan <
> dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> We've had questions along those lines before. My usual answer is that
>> there is no way we would even attempt to write our software in Java and C#
>> wasn't around when we started. Switching to C# would be an option but for
>> our software there are few obvious benefits to doing so. The main one would
>> be a larger pool of developers to hire from but we almost always hire
>> graduates anyway so that doesn't affect us much. Conversely there could be
>> some downsides in that our software is quite computationally intensive and
>> while C# can be fairly heavily optimised these days it is an unknown
>> whether it would be able to match Delphi for our workload. I might also
>> bring up C++ by saying that in some ways C++ would be a more suitable tool
>> for our sort of software but we believe Delphi to be much more productive
>> and much better for GUIs.
>>
>> At which point in the conversation I say that since there is no obvious
>> benefit in changing to another language and there would be an absolutely
>> massive cost involved (without even getting into the mantra as espoused by
>> Joel Spolsky that you should *never* do a full re-write) it really isn't an
>> issue for us. If necessary I also make the point that C# was designed by
>> the same guy (Anders Heijlsberg) who led the design of Delphi and at core
>> they solve similar problems in similar ways.
>>
>> However we are fortunate that we are usually selling to the business
>> rather than the IT department, so the business makes their decision based
>> on the functionality we can offer rather than the IT department deciding.
>> For software which is sold primarily to IT departments it could be a
>> slightly harder discussion, but even so, unless they can point out specific
>> problems with not having some particular software written in C# it is all
>> rather woolly and speculative on their part.
>>
>> I will be interested to see what Malcolm comes back with though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
>> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Paul Hectors
>> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 4:38 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit
>>
>> +1
>>
>> My recent experience is that corporates do not like it when you inform
>> them that your application is written in Delphi, it is perceived as old and
>> a security risk. It would be nice if there was a white paper or some
>> material to reassure them.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
>> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Cameron Hart
>> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:50 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit
>>
>> Hi Malcolm
>>
>> We regularly get questioned on our use of Delphi versus Microsoft C# when
>> responding to RFPs.  The market has a perception that if it's not Java of
>> C# then it is old technology  (I doubt if I drilled into it with anyone
>> whether they would be able to articulate why they think that).  This
>> creates a barrier to sale in some cases.
>>
>> Are you or someone in your team able to provide any sound bites regarding
>> Delphi versus C#/Java that we can use when responding
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> Cameron Hart
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
>> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Malcolm Groves
>> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:46 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit
>>
>> Yep, on the roadmap for this year...pending anymore surprises like iOS64
>> bit of course :-)
>>
>> Malcolm Groves
>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan
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>> On 29/01/2015 11:39, "Paul Harellis" <Paul.Harellis at nzracingboard.co.nz>
>> wrote:
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>> >Hi Malcom,
>> >Have you got any plans to have Delphi for Linux?
>> >Thanks
>> >
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>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
>> >[mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Malcolm
>> >Groves
>> >Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:33 p.m.
>> >To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> >Subject: [DUG] iOS 64bit
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >The iOS 64bit compiler is in final beta. I know several of you are
>> >already using it, but if anybody else is waiting on this please let me
>> >know off-list and I¹ll get you access.
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >Malcolm
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