[DUG] iOS 64bit

[Jeremy Coulter]

On might also raise the issue about decompiling.. C# apps can be decompiled
into readable c# code, Java too, but you cant decompile a Delphi app. into
anything thats of much use. That there is a security issue for C# and Java
IMHO.

Jeremy

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:45 PM, David Brennan <dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz>
wrote:

> We've had questions along those lines before. My usual answer is that
> there is no way we would even attempt to write our software in Java and C#
> wasn't around when we started. Switching to C# would be an option but for
> our software there are few obvious benefits to doing so. The main one would
> be a larger pool of developers to hire from but we almost always hire
> graduates anyway so that doesn't affect us much. Conversely there could be
> some downsides in that our software is quite computationally intensive and
> while C# can be fairly heavily optimised these days it is an unknown
> whether it would be able to match Delphi for our workload. I might also
> bring up C++ by saying that in some ways C++ would be a more suitable tool
> for our sort of software but we believe Delphi to be much more productive
> and much better for GUIs.
>
> At which point in the conversation I say that since there is no obvious
> benefit in changing to another language and there would be an absolutely
> massive cost involved (without even getting into the mantra as espoused by
> Joel Spolsky that you should *never* do a full re-write) it really isn't an
> issue for us. If necessary I also make the point that C# was designed by
> the same guy (Anders Heijlsberg) who led the design of Delphi and at core
> they solve similar problems in similar ways.
>
> However we are fortunate that we are usually selling to the business
> rather than the IT department, so the business makes their decision based
> on the functionality we can offer rather than the IT department deciding.
> For software which is sold primarily to IT departments it could be a
> slightly harder discussion, but even so, unless they can point out specific
> problems with not having some particular software written in C# it is all
> rather woolly and speculative on their part.
>
> I will be interested to see what Malcolm comes back with though.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Paul Hectors
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 4:38 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit
>
> +1
>
> My recent experience is that corporates do not like it when you inform
> them that your application is written in Delphi, it is perceived as old and
> a security risk. It would be nice if there was a white paper or some
> material to reassure them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Cameron Hart
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:50 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit
>
> Hi Malcolm
>
> We regularly get questioned on our use of Delphi versus Microsoft C# when
> responding to RFPs.  The market has a perception that if it's not Java of
> C# then it is old technology  (I doubt if I drilled into it with anyone
> whether they would be able to articulate why they think that).  This
> creates a barrier to sale in some cases.
>
> Are you or someone in your team able to provide any sound bites regarding
> Delphi versus C#/Java that we can use when responding
>
> thanks
>
>
> Cameron Hart
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Malcolm Groves
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:46 p.m.
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> Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit
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> Yep, on the roadmap for this year...pending anymore surprises like iOS64
> bit of course :-)
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
> >[mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Malcolm
> >Groves
> >Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:33 p.m.
> >To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> >Subject: [DUG] iOS 64bit
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> >Hi all,
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> >The iOS 64bit compiler is in final beta. I know several of you are
> >already using it, but if anybody else is waiting on this please let me
> >know off-list and I¹ll get you access.
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> >Cheers
> >Malcolm
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