[DUG] XE8

[Jason Coley]

Native mobile controls OSX iOS Android for many controls (eg DateTime picker)

In one review I read it was noted that this is a NO-OP on everything except iOS.  On all other platforms you still get the doppelganger FireMonkey controls, even if you have configured for "native".

Well I was excited until I read this, really, still the same old crappy controls for OSX, oh well another update I won’t bother with?

Updates and hot fixes for up to two (2) years and three (3) major releases

This is meaningless unless there is also a money-where-your-mouth-is commitment to provide updates and hotfixes for versions other than the current one.

When was the last time EMBT released more than a token update or hotfix for anything other than the current version ?  Is their any commitment to do better in this regards in the future ?

Fully agree with you here Jolyon, sounds to me like lets ensure people pay even more for a bug ridden release, in the hope that bugs get fixed…. Which never do.

Jason

From: Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz<mailto:jsmith at deltics.co.nz>>
Reply-To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi at listserver.123.net.nz<mailto:delphi at listserver.123.net.nz>>
Date: Monday, 13 April 2015 2:56 pm
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi at listserver.123.net.nz<mailto:delphi at listserver.123.net.nz>>
Subject: Re: [DUG] XE8

Native mobile controls OSX iOS Android for many controls (eg DateTime picker)

In one review I read it was noted that this is a NO-OP on everything except iOS.  On all other platforms you still get the doppelganger FireMonkey controls, even if you have configured for "native".

Well I was excited until I read this, really, still the same old crappy controls for OSX, oh well another update I won’t bother with


Updates and hot fixes for up to two (2) years and three (3) major releases

This is meaningless unless there is also a money-where-your-mouth-is commitment to provide updates and hotfixes for versions other than the current one.

When was the last time EMBT released more than a token update or hotfix for anything other than the current version ?  Is their any commitment to do better in this regards in the future ?

On 13 April 2015 at 14:23, David Moorhouse <David.Moorhouse at pegasus.org.nz<mailto:David.Moorhouse at pegasus.org.nz>> wrote:
Does DUnitX have a GUI Runner yet ?
We evaluated it last year and at that stage it did not.

Removing reliance on OpenSSL may be a good thing ☺

D


From:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz<mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz> [mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz<mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz>] On Behalf Of John Bird
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2015 2:18 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: [DUG] XE8

Installed Delphi XE8 over the weekend – main things I noticed are

DUnitX replaces DUnit (now deprecated as not updated for a good while)
http://www.delphifeeds.com/postings/108188-introducing_dunitx_-_a_unit_test_framework_for_delphi

Installer still takes a while but quite a lot seems faster
Castalia
    -multi copy/paste buffer
    -Code metrics
CHM style help back (like Delphi 7) – looks very comprehensive (Goodbye to MS Document Explorer)
Native mobile controls OSX iOS Android for many controls (eg DateTime picker)
Multi device preview
SVN Git Mercurial source control, now includes merging and branching
GetIt package manager in IDE
Native http(s) libraries on Windows, OSX iOS, Android
iOS Android support for SQLite, InterBase ToGo and IBLite
FMX WebBrowser improvement on Windows OSX  (iOS Android?)


New - As of XE8 you will need to have active Update Subscription (maintenance, SA)
contract if you wish to receive any updates and/or hotfixes even for current version.

That makes purchasing Update Subscription almost mandatory.  (Marco Cantu)

Embarcadero looks to be moving to a subscription model (many comments approve of this).

https://www.embarcadero.com/products/rad-studio/update-subscription

Note - Subscription includes

  *   Updates and hot fixes for the current major release
  *   On-going Maintenance - Updates and hot fixes for up to two (2) years and three (3) major releases
  *   Early Beta access to hot fixes, updates, and upcoming releases
  *   All major upgrades (i.e. XE7 to XE8)
  *   Three (3) annual developer support incidents
  *   Exclusive bonus features, add-ons, and technical content
  *   Annually renewable at a fraction of a single upgrade cost (*)
* Typically 30% of new licence cost


John Bird

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