[DUG] Opinion wanted - is the upgrade from XE5 to XE6 worthwhile

[Leigh Wanstead]

Hi Jolyon,

But you need a mental translation from java to delphi :-)

Regards
Leigh


On 11 July 2014 16:17, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:

> But Leigh, the point is that an Oxygene developer does not need *Oxygene
> specific* support.
>
> When I was developing my battery widget I was using the same resources
> that a Java Android developer would use, which are plentiful (ditto my
> excursions into Cocoa).
>
>
> As some sort of idea, you might look at # of tagged questions on
> StackOverflow as a (crude) metric:
>
> Android: 500,000+
> iOS: 250,000+
> Delphi: 27,000+
> Xamarin: 3,400+
> FireMonkey: 880+
> Oxygene: 101+
>
> Initially this does not look good for Oxygene.  But a high proportion of
> those 750,000 Android and iOS questions will be just as helpful to an
> Oxygene developer (and Xamarin for that matter).  Not so much for a
> FireMonkey developer.
>
> Of the three, a FireMonkey developer is the most on their own.
>
>
> As for availability of skills, RemObjects and Xamarin have similar
> advantages - both are (or in the case of Xamarin, can be) Visual Studio
> based so experience with the IDE isn't an issue.  With Xamarin and
> Hydrogene, language skills aren't an issue now that you can call on the
> pool of C# skills.  Framework skills ?  Well, again we're talking about
> Android SDK and Cocoa (or .NET), not some proprietary cross platform
> framework (although there are elements of this with Xamarin I believe).
>
> Again, Delphi with FireMonkey romps home with the "Rocking Horse
> Droppings" award.  ;)
>
>
> On 11 July 2014 15:51, Leigh Wanstead <leigh.wanstead at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jolyon,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> I think the issue with RemObjects Oxygene is developer community size.
>> Delphi is already a minority compare to .net developer population. Then RemObjects
>> Oxygene for android, ios? I think that as rare as hen's teeth :-)
>>
>> If a project has no developer to hire using a tech, what will happen? :-)
>>
>> Anyway, by doing RemObjects Oxygene, everything is same learning curve
>> like native platform except change the language to be pascal. But you have
>> far small community to ask questions and get answers. Answers are not ready
>> for you on the internet, you have to wait someone to answer it first. I
>> already feel that xamarin developer community is too small compare to
>> asp.net mvc, desktop .net etc.
>>
>> Regards
>> Leigh
>>
>>
>>
>>
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