[DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington

Thu Jul 3 11:41:25 NZST 2014

Hi Jeremy,

I think Dunit in Delphi cannot compete with typemock in C# which can use
AAA. i.e. change current time to suit the unit test :-)

Regards
Leigh

On 3 July 2014 11:33, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:

> To follow on from John Bird's comments, I have been involved in technical
> interviews of potential employees many times and the biggest problem we
> find is we get a number of applicants who are RAD developers and struggle
> with code separation techniques and using unit test with DUnit etc. let
> alone ones who can't solve simple SQL problems!
> Thats not to say RAD developers can't become developers who can learn how
> to do code separation unit tests. Its just a change in mind set.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:20 AM, John Bird <johnkbird at paradise.net.nz>
> wrote:
>
>>   OK that begs a further discussion!
>>
>> What in your eyes makes a developer “good” as opposed to thinking they
>> are good – specific qualities please of what the good qualities are.  I am
>> wondering if there are many opinions of what a “good” programmer is which
>> might explain why some think they are good whilst others think they are
>> not.  What are the more objective measures?
>>
>> I have worked on numerous projects the last few years and seen a lot of
>> different talents.  Some that stick out in my experience are:
>>
>>
>>    - Technical proficiency – ie knowing already what is likely to be the
>>    best technology to use to tackle a new problem
>>    - OO depth.   Is it innate or learned?   How is it best learned?
>>    - Ability to mentor and guide others through existing code
>>
>> Curious to hear specifics from you as you have the reputation of a Delphi
>> authority!
>>
>>  *From:* Jeremy North <jeremy.north at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 3, 2014 10:23 AM
>> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> <delphi at listserver.123.net.nz>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington
>>
>>  I know here (Australia) we would happily pay decent salaries if we
>> found Delphi developers that were actually good and didn't just *think*
>> they were good.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Mueller <muellers at orcl-toolbox.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  As a Swiss Delphi Developer living in New Zealand I find that
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> Switzerland isn’t exactly at the top of my mind when I think about the
>>> “value for bucks” for outsourcing work to – not because you don’t get the
>>> quality, but because salaries there are almost twice what you would have to
>>> pay here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Kind regards,
>>>
>>>  *Stefan Müller*,
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>>> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *Tony Blomfield
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 July 2014 9:29 a.m.
>>> *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
>>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you would like to send the details to me I will have a chat with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately we have had such a bad run with Kiwi Developers we moved
>>> our R&D over to Switzerland last year where we get much more cost effective
>>> results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I’d like to assess the person myself to see if they are suitable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Blomfield
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> <delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Gary T. Benner
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 2:32 p.m.
>>> *To:* delphi at delphi.org.nz
>>> *Subject:* [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HI All,
>>>
>>> This just passed in if anyone can help:
>>>
>>> *Permanent Developer available in Wellington.*
>>>
>>> *Experienced Senior Delphi Developer looking for a permanent role in or
>>> around Wellington. *
>>>
>>> *Open to remote work. Also open to learning a new language if needed.
>>> Experienced in picking up code from others and looking after legacy systems
>>> as well as new development.*
>>>
>>> *Also experienced as a Development Manager and Product Management.*
>>>
>>> Anyone with an opportunity can email me at gary at benner.co.nz and I'll
>>> pass it on.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
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