[DUG] Delphi XE2 Upgrades

Wed Aug 8 11:56:17 NZST 2012

I use D2007 for my stuff and XE2 at work.   I much prefer XE2.   Lots of refinements, and kinks ironed out and ever more power features.

John Bird

From: Kyley Harris 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:54 PM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List 
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi XE2 Upgrades

Thanks for the information Jolyon.

based on the fact that I'm still on 2007 and it is still running smoothly I doublt I'd do yearly upgrades. the software i do most importantly just needs a good reliable compiler and editor without all the bells and whistles :)

I think I'll wait a month or 2 and see how it goes. whats annoying is that I seem to have lost my XE download.. lol... ironic that they insist you are licencing the IP, rather than the DVD or download, yet they refuse to ensure you can get another copy of the binaries to actually use your license...  and now I see that they charge $16 (no much) to allow you to download for a 2 year period.. its kind of a joke IMO.  you'd think good customer service means that if you buy a license, they make sure the download is always available.. in this day and age.. its not like its expensive for them to store it. 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:

  Echoing what other's have said, the release of XE3 is imminent.  If you are considering a purchase now, it is definitely worth waiting a few more weeks.  The "RAD Studio World Tour" comes to Auckland on August 28th where you will no doubt find out more.

  http://forms.embarcadero.com/forms/AP12Q3NZRADLaunchEvent

  Well, when I say "more" I should really say "something" since the amount of information available about what we can expect in XE3 has been shockingly, disappointingly and rather worryingly entirely absent so far.

  More positively, it was mentioned that XE2 came with an entitlement to certain previous versions, but not all.  The versions were Delphi 7 and 2007 thru XE.  Worth nothing however is that you do not automatically receive these with your order, you have to explicitly and separately request them and do so within a limited period of your XE2 purchase (6 months I think it was). 

  Also as others have confirmed, SA (Software Assurance, a.k.a Support and Maintenance) is a 1 year agreement from the date of purchase, providing entitlement to 3 support incidents and software upgrades in that 12 month period.

  The cost of SA is (or was) slightly more than 1/2 the price of an upgrade (for a Professional license - the price obviously is different at Enterprise and Architect level).  If you are considering a Pro license and intend upgrading every year/release and trust Embarcadero to release an upgrade within your SA period then SA makes sense.  If you anticipate upgrading only every other year/release then SA makes less sense.

  The formula is different for Enterprise/Architect, where SA is even more advantageous I believe.

  Above all else... Welcome back to the loop!  :)

  - Jolyon

  On 7 August 2012 22:00, Kyley Harris <Kyley at harrissoftware.com> wrote:

    Thanks for that. I really haven't kept in the loop for a few years. 

    On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Jeremy North <jeremy.north at gmail.com> wrote:

      Yes it is a one year deal. 

      This might help you decide what might be best for you.
      http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Release_Dates 

      On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Kyley Harris <Kyley at harrissoftware.com> wrote:

        interesting.. is the support and maintenance valid for 1 year then? meaning you will get the next upgrade cheap only if it comes within a 1 year period?

        Its always a hard call which version to move to. I'm perfectly happy with the rad-studio 2007, but I just feel like it might be time to move forward with the unicode compatibility issue
        while I'm at the start of a new project. 

        On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jeremy North <jeremy.north at gmail.com> wrote:

          Support and maintenance means you don't have to pay for the upgrade each year. 

          Personally I'd wait for the next release, give the cycle of releases and the roadshow email doing the rounds, a new release must be soon.

          Also with XE2 they started given access to previous versions as well. Not sure if that will continue with the next release (or if it started with XE2). 

          On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Kyley Harris <kyleyharris at gmail.com> wrote:

            Just curious how many people have bought XE2 and are happy with it?

            I bought XE early last year and I have to be honest that I haven't even tried to use it yet, so its almost $500USD down the drain.  I had some 3rd party stuff that wasn't playing ball with unicode and never found the time to track it down. 

            I'm now looking to upgrade XE2 and start fresh and hope I can make it all work for a new project.

            One major question I have is the Support and Maintenence option for $270USD. Has anyone ever bought it, and have you ever found use for it? it seems to me that they release "upgrades" that you have to pay for so often that 
            support and maintenance is almost a Do-Nothing service.  If i'm wrong I'd like to hear what people have to say.

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