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<DIV>I use D2007 for my stuff and XE2 at work. I much prefer
XE2. Lots of refinements, and kinks ironed out and ever more power
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Kyley@harrissoftware.com
href="mailto:Kyley@harrissoftware.com">Kyley Harris</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:54 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Delphi XE2 Upgrades</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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for the information Jolyon.<BR><BR>based on the fact that I'm still on 2007 and
it is still running smoothly I doublt I'd do yearly upgrades. the software i do
most importantly just needs a good reliable compiler and editor without all the
bells and whistles :)<BR><BR>I think I'll wait a month or 2 and see how it goes.
whats annoying is that I seem to have lost my XE download.. lol... ironic that
they insist you are licencing the IP, rather than the DVD or download, yet they
refuse to ensure you can get another copy of the binaries to actually use your
license... and now I see that they charge $16 (no much) to allow you to
download for a 2 year period.. its kind of a joke IMO. you'd think good
customer service means that if you buy a license, they make sure the download is
always available.. in this day and age.. its not like its expensive for them to
store it. <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Jolyon Smith <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jsmith@deltics.co.nz"
target=_blank>jsmith@deltics.co.nz</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Echoing what other's have said, the release of XE3 is
imminent. If you are considering a purchase now, it is definitely worth
waiting a few more weeks. The "RAD Studio World Tour" comes to Auckland
on August 28th where you will no doubt find out more.<BR><BR><A
href="http://forms.embarcadero.com/forms/AP12Q3NZRADLaunchEvent"
target=_blank>http://forms.embarcadero.com/forms/AP12Q3NZRADLaunchEvent</A><BR><BR>Well,
when I say "more" I should really say "something" since the amount of
information available about what we can expect in XE3 has been shockingly,
disappointingly and rather worryingly entirely absent so far.<BR><BR>More
positively, it was mentioned that XE2 came with an entitlement to certain
previous versions, but not all. The versions were Delphi 7 and 2007 thru
XE. Worth nothing however is that you do not automatically receive these
with your order, you have to explicitly and separately request them and do so
within a limited period of your XE2 purchase (6 months I think it was).
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<DIV>Also as others have confirmed, SA (Software Assurance, a.k.a Support and
Maintenance) is a 1 year agreement from the date of purchase, providing
entitlement to 3 support incidents and software upgrades in that 12 month
period.<BR><BR>The cost of SA is (or was) slightly more than 1/2 the price of
an upgrade (for a Professional license - the price obviously is different at
Enterprise and Architect level). If you are considering a Pro license
and intend upgrading every year/release and trust Embarcadero to release an
upgrade within your SA period then SA makes sense. If you anticipate
upgrading only every other year/release then SA makes less sense.<BR><BR>The
formula is different for Enterprise/Architect, where SA is even more
advantageous I believe.<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Above all else... Welcome back to the loop! :)<SPAN
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<DIV>- Jolyon</DIV></FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 7 August 2012 22:00, Kyley Harris <SPAN
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class=gmail_quote>Thanks for that. I really haven't kept in the loop for a
few years.
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Jeremy North <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jeremy.north@gmail.com"
target=_blank>jeremy.north@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Yes it is a one year deal.
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<DIV>This might help you decide what might be best for you.</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Release_Dates"
target=_blank>http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Release_Dates</A> </DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Kyley Harris <SPAN
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class=gmail_quote>interesting.. is the support and maintenance valid for
1 year then? meaning you will get the next upgrade cheap only if it
comes within a 1 year period?<BR><BR>Its always a hard call which
version to move to. I'm perfectly happy with the rad-studio 2007, but I
just feel like it might be time to move forward with the unicode
compatibility issue<BR>while I'm at the start of a new project.
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jeremy North
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jeremy.north@gmail.com"
target=_blank>jeremy.north@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Support and maintenance means you don't have to pay
for the upgrade each year.
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<DIV>Personally I'd wait for the next release, give the cycle of
releases and the roadshow email doing the rounds, a new release must
be soon.</DIV>
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<DIV>Also with XE2 they started given access to previous versions as
well. Not sure if that will continue with the next release (or if it
started with XE2). </DIV>
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<DIV>On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Kyley Harris <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:kyleyharris@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kyleyharris@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV>Just curious how many people have bought XE2 and are happy with
it?<BR><BR>I bought XE early last year and I have to be honest that
I haven't even tried to use it yet, so its almost $500USD down the
drain. I had some 3rd party stuff that wasn't playing ball
with unicode and never found the time to track it down. <BR><BR>I'm
now looking to upgrade XE2 and start fresh and hope I can make it
all work for a new project.<BR><BR>One major question I have is the
Support and Maintenence option for $270USD. Has anyone ever bought
it, and have you ever found use for it? it seems to me that they
release "upgrades" that you have to pay for so often that
<BR>support and maintenance is almost a Do-Nothing service. If
i'm wrong I'd like to hear what people have to say.<SPAN><FONT
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