[DUG] Delphi roadmap
Jolyon Smith
jsmith at deltics.co.nz
Mon Jan 10 11:32:48 NZDT 2011
I actually deliberately leave "CodeGear" and DTG era out of the moniker,
because that was the time when it looked like there might be a return to
common sense. The Turbo resurrections, the restoration of the separate
personality SKU's etc, the termination of Delphi.NET.
The recurring theme in the (later) Borland, then Inprise and now
Embarc_A_dero era's is high prices, enterprise level features, pursuit of
features and a broadening of the offering to try to make Delphi the same as
the alternatives, rather than focussing on what makes Delphi different,
along with expectations over price tolerance and a lack of concern over
fostering entry level, community, hobby-level developers... ya know, the
type of people that gave us things like FastMM, Indy, JCL, TNT etc etc
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Alister Christie
Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 11:00
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi roadmap
I think Borcoderoprise would be closer
Borland, CodeGear, Embarcadero and the ever favorable Inprise
Anyone else see further improvements?
Alister Christie
Computers for People
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On 10/01/2011 10:34 a.m., Jolyon Smith wrote:
MS has tools for OS/X ?!? ;)
The problem I see with their multi-platform direction is that the platforms
they are targeting are all well served by completely free tools. Unless
Embarcadero sort out their thinking w.r.t. low cost, entry level SKU's for
their software development products and shake off their addiction
to/obsession with enterprise (small "e") type developers/customers, they
simply cannot compete in those spaces.
Read "Will not" compete, rather than "cannot" - they could be competitive
if they modify their thinking around pricing, but my guess is that they will
choose not to do that, and instead expect/hope those markets will "mature"
around their ticket price, because the mindset at Borcaderoprise is that
"real, grown up software developers pay handsomely for their tools -
everyone else is just tinkering".
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Alister Christie
Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 10:18
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi roadmap
I don't care much for Win64 or OS/X - but I think they are required to make
Delphi a serious competitor to MS tools. Would like mobile platforms -
Android or iOS - both of which are ARM based.
NVidia already have plenty experience
<http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra.html> with the ARM platform.
Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
http://www.salespartner.co.nz
PO Box 13085
Johnsonville
Wellington
On 8/01/2011 10:22 a.m., Malcolm Groves wrote:
Personally, I'd rather we get Win64, MacOSX, and maybe a mobile platform out
the door before we look at supporting something that may not even have a
market.
Cheers
Malcolm
Malcolm Groves
Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan
Embarcadero Technologies
http://www.embarcadero.com
Phone: +61 416 264 204
Skype: malcolmgroves
On 08/01/2011, at 7:44 AM, "Jan Bakuwel" <mailto:jan.bakuwel at omiha.com>
<jan.bakuwel at omiha.com> wrote:
Hi,
We debated what we'd like to see in future version of Delphi from time
to time. It seems that the recent announcement of NVidia and Microsoft
("Project Denver") as outlined here for example:
http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/nvidia-guns-desktop-server-market/2
011-01-07
would indicate that Embarcadero has no choice but to adopt the Delphi
compiler for different target architectures (at least to include ARM).
Thoughts?
Jan
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