[DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

[Jolyon Smith]

Is it no other *versions* or no other *editions* of the *same* version?

The installation notes for my XE Starter [:)] say that you cannot have other
"higher edition personality" installed, but the XE "Studio" framework is
separate from the BDS 2006 framework, for example, so a Delphi XE Starter
Personality can, by my interpretation, co-exist with BDS 2006, but NOT
Delphi XE Professional.

The machine I want to install XE on is not the one I am on right now tho, so
I can't attempt an install to find out...

If that is not the case, and I cannot have Starter XE installed alongside
older Pro editions, then I shall be requesting a refund as this was not made
clear at the time of purchase (and would make a nonsense of having older
versions explicitly identified as qualifying products for an upgrade
license).



-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of David Brennan
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:44
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

Some quite large companies don't make any profit at all so profit would be a
tricky measure!

The 1000USD seems potentially a little low but I don't think it will matter
much in the real world. I imagine it would be quite likely for someone to be
turning over 2-3k USD with their little hobby software project and having
upgrading to Pro on their TODO list but never quite getting around to it. No
one is likely to know and no one will much care (Embarcadero would have to
care if someone pointed it out but I can't see them attempting to audit tiny
guys with sales of approx 1000USD per year!). OTOH if that hobbyest gets to
the point where his software is making a noticeable splash then Embarcadero
can reasonably point out that his income must be well over 1000USD, no
argument, he has to buy Pro. 

I like it. Seems fairly commonsense.

However I do think the restriction on having no other Delphi/C++ versions
installed is odd. I guess in theory people who have Pro+ versions installed
don't qualify for Standard (although having Pro from work and Standard for
own use seems possible and not unreasonable) but not allowing both Delphi
and C++ Standard to be installed is just weird. Why can't a hobbyist want
both?

David.




-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jolyon Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:15 p.m.
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

It's an annual limit afaik.

But it's a "revenue" limit, not profit, with no allowance for any the costs
that even a hobbyist or open source developer might incur.  e.g. if someone
makes software available for download they will most likely incur traffic
costs for the downloads.  With a "donation" scheme in place, the donations
may not even cover the traffic costs, but as soon as those donations hit
$1000, they are in violation of their license terms, even tho they still
aren't actually making any money from their Delphi use.

This is what I mean by it being ridiculously low.

If it was $1000 *profit* then it would be different.



-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jeremy North
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 12:58
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

> The $1000 revenue limit is also bizarrely low imho - it's high enough to
> worm it's way around any "non-commercial use" restriction, but not high
> enough to realistically be anything other than a "non-commercial use only"
> restriction in all but name.

It is targeted at open source or hobbyists developers. I don't see any
issues with the limit.

Is the $1000 per year or a running total?
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