[DUG] DUG] XE2 upgrade

Graham Marsden graham at wk.planet.gen.nz
Wed Dec 28 13:11:52 NZDT 2011


Hi John
I upgraded from D2007 in November. 

1 -  I am mulling whether to get just Delphi XE2 professional upgrade or RAD Studio XE2 upgrade....interested in 
playing/experimenting with RADPHP ? eg a simple version of one of my apps rewritten as a web app could be cool 
and useful...  but its only a wish idea and might never get to it!   Anyone think its worth the $300 extra for RAD 
Studio XE2 upgrade if I am pretty much a pure Delphi guy?

I was also wanting to find a good web development platform and D4PHP (vers 2) looked promising as it would 
leverage my Delphi experience. There were a few issues I could not get past. Not sure it it was just me or D4PHP
* The help was no help at all.
* There are critical but (almost) unexplained properties that must be set on controls to get things working right.
* Need to know some Java to get the best from the experience. D4PHP assumes you know some Java.
* To deploy to the web you neet your host to be using PHP 5.??
* The appearance of your page/controls is not really easily altered with the standard controls. There are other 
controls you can buy which look very good but once again a bit a learning experience with not much on line help.

Maybe the latest offering is improved on some fronts ??
I would love to hear from anyone who has persisted with D4PHP and willshoot me down and help me out but at 
the moment D4PHP and therefore RADPHP is shelved.

2 ? If I get Delphi XE2 now and add the RadPHP later how much would that cost ? and is that a practical way to do 
it if I get it only when I need it...(ie does it install into the same IDE or is it then a totally separate product)

Totally separate product.

3 ? I understand that Rave Reports in D2007 is no longer in XE2 ? is this correct?   I use the code based reports 
and a generic printing unit (load data on a form and use a generic function to turn the display into a report ? labels 
memos grids and all) ? I presume what is XE2 has some equivalent way of code based reports?.     Can it output 
PDF as well?  (Rave can)

Rave Reports Version 10 is in XE2. All reports seem to make the move to XE2 without issues. (phew !!)
PDF output is still an option. One strange thing - Version 10 is not mentioned at all on the nevrona web site.

I thought unicode was going to give me some headaches in upgrading apps from D2007 to XE2. These di not 
eventuate although I have to admit not actually using any unicode features. So maybe I will get the headache later 
when  I do some unicoding.

While on the topic of XE2 .... Anyone out there noticing any delays in the responses of the XE2 IDE ???
I am experiencing big delays (up to 30 seconds) in the code completion responding and also loss of the cursor 
after an editior window swap for up to 30 seconds. The embarcadero forum does not seem to have a Q&A area for 
these kind of things and I have not heard back from Malcolm Groves ((come in Malcolm :-)) about this. (ahh ! that 
feels better off my chest !)

HTH

Graham Marsden


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