[DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

[Jolyon Smith]

I may be wrong, but I think Paul was more concerned about a stated intention
made to him by Dev-Inc to take a matter up with Borland on his behalf and
then a complete lack of any sort of feedback from Dev-Inc until what seemed
to him to be a condescending comment about his current situation.

 

But as for that $500-$600 price you quote ...  That's a little disingenuous
don't you think?  Current pricing for Delphi 2010 Pro (Named User) is $750
incl GST.  Or were you making an offer of a discount for DUG subscribers?  J

 

Remember that many community users are not GST registered.  In many cases we
may work for companies that are, but when maintaining our own licenses we
have to pay the full asking price and often we don't have customers from
whom to recoup the cost.

 

I'd also point out that the recent Delphi versions offer themselves up - or
are offered up by CodeGear or others - for comparison with Visual Studio, in
which endeavour they fail in one key respect... the lack of an entirely FREE
edition.  (There isn't even an entry level SKU comparable to "Standard"
edition Visual Studio)

 

I'd like to prefix "current" to that word "lack", but have no reason to do
so at the moment.

 

 

From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Richard Vowles
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:16
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

 

2009/9/16 Paul A Norman <paul.a.norman at gmail.com>

And I have heard nothing until Richard in this Forum smirked last night was
I actually using 2005? 

 

So is that the level of support and followup we can expect?


That was quite rude Paul.

Paul, I am not, and have never been the reason you continue to use Delphi
2005. I am also not responsible for the quality of Delphi 2005 and given
most people downgraded back to Delphi 7, find it hugely surprising you
continue to use Delphi 2005. IMHO, Borland was responsible for Delphi 2005,
CodeGear and Embarcadero have apologised enough for this version and have
spent considerable time, money and effort to make subsequent versions that
they actually own and are responsible for the best quality releases we have
seen in a long time. But they are a business and need to make money. It is
time to move on. I pay for my development tools and continue to invest in
them - they are part of what I do to make myself a better developer and
produce code more effectively for my customers. Tools, like time, training
and all other effort is something you invest in IMHO, and if you feel the
time you spend with a less than effective tool is worth more than the cost
of upgrading to a product owned by a completely different, there is little I
feel the need to do about it.
 
I'm afraid $500-600 every 18 months for a new version of a Delphi Pro which
provides such incredible value would be the least of my decision making
points. Given I could delay that under current upgrade policy for years and
still pay the same amount for an even greater jump in productivity and
capability makes the cost of the upgrade, in my opinion, a no brainer. I
however, am a professional software developer.

Richard

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