[DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

Leigh Wanstead leighw at Softtech.co.nz
Wed Sep 16 14:00:56 NZST 2009


I thought that embaco got a bargain on purchase Delphi from Borland. Will they make Delphi cheaper?

From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 1:03 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

Agreed. Borland went away from its core competency to enter into a market it was ill prepared for. It tried to recoup some of the costs and losses by upping the cost of the core developer's tool (Delphi) until it cost the value greater than the cost of a good second hand car.

It's total focus away from the developer and it's huge cost of delphi meant that most NZ companies went away from Delphi to another tool that offered more, easier and cheaper upgrades. Boreland effectively killed the cash-cow through over-excessive milking.

Thankfully they are looking good to recover slightly, although regaining the customer base they had previously is probably now out of their range.

Steve Peacocke

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Kyley Harris <Kyley at harrissoftware.com<mailto:Kyley at harrissoftware.com>> wrote:
"Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE that could be
used forever.."

No.. they went broke spending tons of money buying 3rd party tools and trying to sell them for a fortune to recoup the buy cost.. at the same time they damn near abandoned the concept of putting out and supporting the Core Development tools and focused on buggy integration tools with all the extras they purchased..

They were doing great as a company for Programmers.. Tried to become a company for lifecycle development and stuffed up.

Still.. with Delphi 2007 I've been quite happy.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, John Bird <johnkbird at paradise.net.nz<mailto:johnkbird at paradise.net.nz>> wrote:
I think in general the upgrade policy has been quite generous, as others say
other companies are much worse.

Take Microsoft -  As a Vista user of 1 year I get no reduced price upgrade
to Windows 7.  Vista is V6.0, Windows 7 internally is ictually Windows 6.1
and could be argued is not even a new version at all - they are as similar
as Windows 2000 (V5.0) and Windows XP (V5.1) were.

D2007 versus 7 - have to say the D2007 use of IDE screen is a lot better for
a single screen on a laptop.  And like others I have the D7 help loaded -
actually the D2007 help is not so bad, just slow at times.

Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE that could be
used forever..

John


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