[DUG] Delphi 3 Upgrade

[bevan at achieve.co.nz]

I think that one of the issues is that the cost of that license contributes towards the lower cost of future upgrades.  So if I have Delphi 3, for example, and subsequently upgrade it to Delphi 5, then I can't legally sell Delphi 3 because it is the ownership of it that I had the right to upgrade at a lower cost.

Now, taking that a step further, the person who buys Delphi 3 could then attempt to upgrade that version to Delphi 5 as well - and now the producer/reseller is *definitely* out of pocket.

So, as you can see it's not a simple case of keeping track of who has which version right now, it's also a matter of tracking which licenses have been used for upgrades, and to which version.


 On Sun 01/06/08  9:18 AM , "Paul A Norman" paul.a.norman at gmail.com sent:
> Dear all,   This would put codegear/"what ever it now is" purchase of
> thir products in a new light if legitimate reselling transfering of
> licenses is not possible.   For such database wizs its hard to imagine
> why the "tracking costs" of keeping tabs on such thinbgs would be so
> high, and I am sure that there are good people on this newsgroup who
> could suggest cost efficient means of doing so if Codegear internal
> research really can't come up with such a thing.   Is it perhaps
> more that Codegear would see such transfers as eating into potential
> NEW sales and there fore wish to discourage such transfers?   Paul
> 
> 2008/5/31 John Mason :
> The EULA is irrelevant if it contradicts fair-use rights allowed in
> law. Autodesk recently filed a lawsuit against someone selling
> Autocad:
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080523-court-smacks-autodesk-affirms
> -right-to-sell-used-software.html[2]
> Similarly to Autodesks website, CodeGear's site uses the word
> "How to buy", "Reasons to buy". This is a misguided attempt to sell
> more copies of the software, arguments about costs of transferring
> licences are just smoke and mirrors.
> John Mason
> Richard Vowles wrote:     The official line, no matter what John
> says, is that licenses are *not* transferrable - it says so right
> there in the license file - go read it for yourself. The argument has
> been the cost of the overheard of dealing with transferred licenses
> and tracking licenses. What Paul may be confusing me with saying is
> that inter-company transfers are no problem, and when you have a
> product that has never been licensed you are effectively acting as a
> reseller, which is also not generally a problem (although the license
> does actually prohibit this as well).
> CodeGear generally will transfer the licenses for companies who have
> been purchased or merged with other companies as long as they fill in
> all the paper work. The last time it happened, it took around two
> months.
> 
> So - if you are going to find a second hand copy on TradeMe - make
> sure it hasn't been registered already. The one and only time we
> did that for someone who purchased on ebay it was because they had
> been shafted.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 2008/5/30 Todd Martin :
> A few years ago I purchased a copy of Delphi 6 Pro from someone in
> the US and had no problems re-registering it with Borland.
> Paul A Norman wrote:
> Dear Richard,
> You have posted here in past years that licenses can be arranged to
> be transfered if it is clear they have not been used for upgrades, or
> a company/individual is going rigth out of Delphi, or purchased too
> many licenses in the past.
> Paul 
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