[DUG] Delphi 3 Upgrade

Paul A Norman paul.a.norman at gmail.com
Sun Jun 1 09:18:36 NZST 2008


Dear all,

This would put codegear/"what ever it now is" purchase of thir products in a
new light if legitimate reselling transfering of licenses is not possible.

For such database wizs its hard to imagine why the "tracking costs" of
keeping tabs on such thinbgs would be so high, and I am sure that there are
good people on this newsgroup who could suggest cost efficient means of
doing so if Codegear internal research really can't come up with such a
thing.

Is it perhaps more that Codegear would see such transfers as eating into
potential NEW sales and there fore wish to discourage such transfers?

Paul

2008/5/31 John Mason <jmason at paradise.net.nz>:

> The EULA is irrelevant if it contradicts fair-use rights allowed in law.
> Autodesk recently filed a lawsuit against someone selling Autocad:
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080523-court-smacks-autodesk-affirms-right-to-sell-used-software.html
>
> Similarly to Autodesks website, CodeGear's site uses the word "How to buy",
> "Reasons to buy". This is a misguided attempt to sell more copies of the
> software, arguments about costs of transferring licences are just smoke and
> mirrors.
>
> John Mason
>
>
> Richard Vowles wrote:
>
>  The official line, no matter what John says, is that licenses are *not*
> transferrable - it says so right there in the license file - go read it for
> yourself. The argument has been the cost of the overheard of dealing with
> transferred licenses and tracking licenses. What Paul may be confusing me
> with saying is that inter-company transfers are no problem, and when you
> have a product that has never been licensed you are effectively acting as a
> reseller, which is also not generally a problem (although the license does
> actually prohibit this as well).
>
> CodeGear generally will transfer the licenses for companies who have been
> purchased or merged with other companies as long as they fill in all the
> paper work. The last time it happened, it took around two months.
>
> So - if you are going to find a second hand copy on TradeMe - make sure it
> hasn't been registered already. The one and only time we did that for
> someone who purchased on ebay it was because they had been shafted.
>
> Richard
>
> 2008/5/30 Todd Martin <todd.martin.nz at gmail.com>:
>
>> A few years ago I purchased a copy of Delphi 6 Pro from someone in the US
>> and had no problems re-registering it with Borland.
>>
>> Paul A Norman wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Richard,
>>>  You have posted here in past years that licenses can be arranged to be
>>> transfered if it is clear they have not been used for upgrades, or a
>>> company/individual is going rigth out of Delphi, or purchased too many
>>> licenses in the past.
>>>  Paul
>>>
>>
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