[DUG] OO Programming

[Steve Peacocke]

Its never "that other 5%". My favourite saying is explaining that the main
problem with most programming is that last little wee 95%.

:o)

Steve
http://stevepeacocke.blogspot.com/

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Neven MacEwan <neven at mwk.co.nz> wrote:

> Steve
>
> So what we need is OO RAD? Where you define classes and they 'instantly'
> appear on your palette (and are dynamically updated)
> And a O-R framework is part of the language?
>
> The problem has been of course that the Table Row = Business Object is a
> 95% accurate solution and so the Delphi IDE
> has basically delivered in 95% of situations
>
> That other 5% is a bastard though
>
> Just a thought
> Neven
> > Yea, thanks Conor,
> >
> > Sure, in RAD, as it is in any Delphi project, you can certainly get
> > away with simply programming the event handlers in the components
> > (depending on the application). That should not preclude being able to
> > create, for example, an Application Object that handles all your
> > globals like the logged in user, or the company name and other details
> > needed at times (e.g.; lbCompany.Caption := oApp.CompanyName) - where
> > perhaps the company name is extracted from the database etc. In this
> > example, oApp knows how to extract the company name, and perhaps even
> > format it for display.
> >
> > RAD does not mean ShiteProgramming, or NoThoughtProgramming. Its hard
> > to find a definitive definition (?) for RAD and a quick search shows
> > various descriptions from the tool itself (Delphi or VB) to the whole
> > spectrum of Agile methodologies.
> >
> > However, I do disagree with the assertion that RAD does not lend
> > itself to larger apps (or did you mean "Rapid Prototyping"). In fact
> > RAD is an excellent development environment for developing even
> > enterprise level applications. Some years ago I had the pleasure of
> > working in a team of between 3-5 developers where we used a RAD
> > approach (using Delphi) in an iterative and incremental development
> > methodology to produce a very large scale corporate application and
> > can confirm the approach as excellent and the development far
> > outperforms a team up to 10 times larger using Java/J2EE in a refined
> > waterfall approach for a similar sized project.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Conor Boyd <Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz
> > <mailto:Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz>> wrote:
> >
> >     Probably because I don't put the acronym RAD and the word
> >     "programming" together as you have done.
> >
> >     From my POV, RAD is generally taken to mean what the acronym
> >     stands for, Rapid Application Development; i.e. drop some
> >     components on to a form, wire up a few event handlers, voila.
> >
> >     Doesn't mean I don't "do" OOP in event handlers and the little
> >     amount of code that is required in such an app, but IMHO you're
> >     comparing apples with oranges.
> >
> >     RAD does not lend itself to larger apps which are intended to be
> >     easily maintainable and intended to be worked on by a team of
> >     developers.
> >
> >     Cheers,
> >
> >     C.
> >
> >
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> >     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
> >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Peacocke
> >     *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:13 a.m.
> >     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> >     *Subject:* Re: [DUG] OO Programming
> >
> >     Just an interesting observation - why do people think that RAD
> >     programming excludes OOP programming?
> >
> >     RAD is a methodology, OOP is a programming style.
> >
> >     Steve
> >     http://stevepeacocke.blogspot.com/
> >
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