[DUG] OO Programming

Neven MacEwan neven at mwk.co.nz
Wed Jul 30 10:08:44 NZST 2008


Steve

So what we need is OO RAD? Where you define classes and they 'instantly' 
appear on your palette (and are dynamically updated)
And a O-R framework is part of the language?

The problem has been of course that the Table Row = Business Object is a 
95% accurate solution and so the Delphi IDE
has basically delivered in 95% of situations

That other 5% is a bastard though

Just a thought
Neven
> Yea, thanks Conor,
>
> Sure, in RAD, as it is in any Delphi project, you can certainly get 
> away with simply programming the event handlers in the components 
> (depending on the application). That should not preclude being able to 
> create, for example, an Application Object that handles all your 
> globals like the logged in user, or the company name and other details 
> needed at times (e.g.; lbCompany.Caption := oApp.CompanyName) - where 
> perhaps the company name is extracted from the database etc. In this 
> example, oApp knows how to extract the company name, and perhaps even 
> format it for display.
>
> RAD does not mean ShiteProgramming, or NoThoughtProgramming. Its hard 
> to find a definitive definition (?) for RAD and a quick search shows 
> various descriptions from the tool itself (Delphi or VB) to the whole 
> spectrum of Agile methodologies.
>
> However, I do disagree with the assertion that RAD does not lend 
> itself to larger apps (or did you mean "Rapid Prototyping"). In fact 
> RAD is an excellent development environment for developing even 
> enterprise level applications. Some years ago I had the pleasure of 
> working in a team of between 3-5 developers where we used a RAD 
> approach (using Delphi) in an iterative and incremental development 
> methodology to produce a very large scale corporate application and 
> can confirm the approach as excellent and the development far 
> outperforms a team up to 10 times larger using Java/J2EE in a refined 
> waterfall approach for a similar sized project.
>
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Conor Boyd <Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz 
> <mailto:Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz>> wrote:
>
>     Probably because I don't put the acronym RAD and the word
>     "programming" together as you have done.
>      
>     From my POV, RAD is generally taken to mean what the acronym
>     stands for, Rapid Application Development; i.e. drop some
>     components on to a form, wire up a few event handlers, voila.
>      
>     Doesn't mean I don't "do" OOP in event handlers and the little
>     amount of code that is required in such an app, but IMHO you're
>     comparing apples with oranges.
>      
>     RAD does not lend itself to larger apps which are intended to be
>     easily maintainable and intended to be worked on by a team of
>     developers.
>      
>     Cheers,
>      
>     C.
>
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>     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Peacocke
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:13 a.m.
>     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>     *Subject:* Re: [DUG] OO Programming
>
>     Just an interesting observation - why do people think that RAD
>     programming excludes OOP programming?
>
>     RAD is a methodology, OOP is a programming style.
>
>     Steve
>     http://stevepeacocke.blogspot.com/
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