[DUG] D2007 under VIsta

David Brennan dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz
Mon Aug 18 15:05:32 NZST 2008


UAC lasted a day on my computer. I too thought I would give it a go but it
really is that irritating. Rather than turn it off though I set it so that
it would automatically escalate priviliges for my login. Probably comes to
pretty much the same thing but feels a little bit better that I haven't
completely disabled it ;-)

BTW, yes, that means that my complaints about the number of steps involved
in doing simple things is even after getting rid of those popups...


-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of John Bird
Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 2:05 p.m.
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] D2007 under VIsta

Thanks.

As an aside if I do get onto Vista I will be fairly determined to NOT turn
off the UAC, as it is one of the features of Vista I really applaud....from
all those years of living on Unix servers where you had no choice -
certainly you never did routine user work logged in as root (administrator)
and it was a no-brainer once you got used to which directories were
protected and how permissions on files and folders worked.

(On Unix it is so useful - For instance you didn't have to encrypt files to
keep them hidden - you just turned off the read attribute for anyone not in
the same group, or everyone other than the owner if you wanted them to be
really private).

However it looks like MS have done a good job of making what is on
Unix/linux a simple idea for all users into a complicated system that most
people cannot figure out the subtleties of all the policies and inherited
permissions etc...

I wonder how few Vista users do leave UAC turned on?  That would be an
interesting figure.

John

John asked:

> Any issues running D2007 under Vista? - have it on XP Pro at present 
> and looking to upgrade...

Once I had Vista tweaked so it behaves largely like XP (i.e. minimising all
the unwanted "are you sure" type dialogs), I've found it perfectly
acceptable for D2007 and other work.

In other words, if you have a Vista machine (or are feeling compelled to
actively cover Vista), go ahead and put D2007 on it.

If you are getting a new machine and still feel you have a viable choice of
XP, you may prefer to stick with XP.

> Will be mainly writing for clients on XP, and I was wondering if there 
> are any issues with either XP/Vista themes or fonts the IDE uses.

Not that I have noticed. I have not tried to actively impose Vista- style
themes on the apps in any way.

>  Also any install issues.  (I tend to put my source folders in a 
> separate root level folder, not under Documents and Settings on XP)

Ditto, and yes, same story.

cheers,
peter

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