[DUG] Vista help

[Robert martin]

The "All Users\Application Data" dir is now read only for limited access 
users.  So its fine for reading but if you want to write to it, then its 
a no go.


Rob Martin
Software Engineer

phone +64 03 377 0495
fax   +64 03 377 0496
web www.chreos.com

Wild Software Ltd



Myles Penlington wrote:
> Use the "All Users\Application Data" folder for shared data.
> Myles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.net.nz
> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Alister Christie
> Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:02
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Vista help
>
> You probably don't want any user data stored in the Program Files 
> directory - I'm not sure what you are meant to do when you share data 
> across users.   Vista has quite a lot of support for legacy applications
>
> (folder/registry virtualization), however this support may not be in the
>
> next release of windows (which is probably not for another 5 years) - so
>
> I would try to not depend on it.
>
> I'm in the middle of fixing my own inno setup script to try to put 
> things in their correct places (the Application Data directory - or 
> {userappdata} for the inno setup script constant).  I guess this is 
> stuff I should have sorted out years ago for XP.
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington 
>
>
>
> Ross Levis wrote:
>   
>> I can't help you, I'm sorry, but I have some Vista questions of my own
>>     
>
>   
>> that I hope someone can answer.
>>
>> I use D7 and use the XP manifest component currently.  Is it easy to 
>> modify this to provide a Vista manifest?
>>
>> I've modified my programs recently to write it's configuarion data to
>>     
> a 
>   
>> specific subfolder called Data under the installation folder, which is
>>     
>
>   
>> normally under the Program Files folder, and I've also made sure the 
>> programs work with restricted user rights.
>>
>> I considered using the Common Application Data area but this will be
>>     
> too 
>   
>> difficult when there are multiple installations of my app on the same 
>> PC, which is a common occurence.
>>
>> I have Inno setup changing the access rights on the Data folder to 
>> read/write/modify during installation
>>
>> Does any of this break the Vista rules?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ross.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robert martin" <rob at wildsoft.co.nz>
>> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:27 AM
>> Subject: [DUG] Vista help
>>
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> We are testing our Apps in Vista but I must admit to having some
>> difficulties with the OS.  We use Crystal reports which we understadn
>>     
> is
>   
>> a problem on Vista.
>>
>> So I have been testing our runtime install (the full deployment is a
>> guaranteed no go).  It was working!.  However the app involved showed
>> with a shield (which apparently indicates running in admin mode),
>>     
> even
>   
>> though the properties for the app were set to no compatability fixes
>>     
> and
>   
>> non admin.  So I rebuilt the app with a Vista manifest setting the
>> rights to minimum (user).  This removed the shield but broke Crystal.
>> So I removed the manifest but the shield has not returned and even if
>>     
> I
>   
>> force the app to run in admin mode, crystal still fails.
>>
>> I think the issue is the app is no longer 'virtualized'.  I have no
>>     
> idea
>   
>> how to turn this setting back on.  Does anyone have any ideas, the MS
>> site tells me all about virtualization and that adding a security
>> manifest will turn it off (thats what I did), but removing the
>>     
> manifest
>   
>> has not restored it.
>>
>> Arrggghh !
>>
>>   
>>     
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