[DUG] Delphi 2007 and Delphi for PHP
Paul A Norman
paul.a.norman at gmail.com
Fri Mar 2 23:41:35 NZDT 2007
Dear Richard,
Is there a bundle of Delphi 2007 for Win32 - Professional -
Upgrade<http://www.developers-inc.co.nz/simple_shopping/showProduct.html;jsessionid=1unr6qwvtfxc0?id=177650>,
which includes software assurance?
It doesn't yet seem to be showing on the developers-inc site (
http://www.developers-inc.co.nz/simple_shopping/viewCategory.html?id=118601)
Paul
On 23/02/07, Neven MacEwan <neven at mwk.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Nick
>
> I would have thought it would be quite difficult (and incredibly stupid)
> to do this, I'd be more worried about the client code being cross
> browser compatible, based on the problems i've had (with JSCalendar for
> example) I'd also be interested as to what PHP database connectivity
> they use because after much experimentation I've settled on the unified
> ODBC (as I had problems with PDO and native MSSQL)
>
> I'm really excited about this product because it potentially could be a
> giant killer
>
> 1/ Good Component Lib
> 2/ RAD IDE
> 3/ Backend independant
> 4/ Client Independant
> 5/ Web Enabled
>
> Sort of like ruby on rails without the sanctimony
>
> Neven
> > I would hope so, I was thinking about that before.....
> > Our servers are all *nix based, would be useless if we couldn't upload
> > that code to our servers.
> > Hopefully it has no funky modules that can't be used on *nix. (or some
> > weird php.ini settings)
> >
> > James Sugrue wrote:
> >> The other thing I would be interested in, is is the PHP code cross
> >> platform compatible. I.E. can I take the output from Delphi for PHP
> >> and use it on Linux or OSX?
> >>
> >> On 2/23/07, * Nick Fauchelle* <nick at unica.co.nz
> >> <mailto:nick at unica.co.nz>> wrote:
> >>
> >> When I watch the video and I see him drop those controls on the
> >> page,
> >> and then he runs the page... I wanna see what the html code looks
> >> like.
> >> How is the position of the controls done in the html - does it
> >> create
> >> tables, does it use styles. If we edit that page in dreamweaver /
> >> notepad and put those controls in a table ourselves - when we open
> >> it in
> >> Delphi how will that then look. Will it support css so if we
> >> change the
> >> color of the listbox/editbox etc will that display in Delphi.
> >>
> >> Will be very interested to see a demo before I buy it.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >> Neven MacEwan wrote:
> >> > Jeremy North wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Sounds impressive, what debugging support?
> >> >
> >> > Neven
> >> >> This was posted by José León Serna on the newsgroups. He is the
> >> guy
> >> >> from qadram, his product is what Delphi for PHP is based on.
> >> >>
> >> >> Subject: Delphi for PHP screencast... some AJAX going on?
> >> >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:09:32 +1100
> >> >>
> >> >> ===============
> >> >>
> >> >> Just some comments:
> >> >> -It has Ajax integration, but depends on the component
> >> developer to
> >> >> use it or not, or to abstract it more or not, for example, the
> >> DBGrid
> >> >> component uses Ajax to update the data on the server without
> >> any line
> >> >> of code and we provide the infraestructure in the VCL base
> >> classes to
> >> >> develop components without the hassle of implement a complete
> >> new ajax
> >> >> solution every time
> >> >>
> >> >> -If you want to develop components and use your own ajax
> >> package, you
> >> >> can, because the VCL has been designed to be open enough to
> >> integrate
> >> >> almost anything you can imagine, that's the key of the
> >> framework, you
> >> >> are not tied to anything
> >> >>
> >> >> -The VCL for PHP framework has been designed to make easy
> >> integrate
> >> >> scripts already written, for example, create a component to
> >> wrap the
> >> >> Google Maps functionality, and use it on your application, it
> >> takes
> >> >> less than 5 minutes and is less than 90 lines of code, in which
> >> most
> >> >> are not functional code.
> >> >>
> >> >> -The product started as a code editor, that's the tool for
> >> most (if
> >> >> not all) PHP coders out there, so it loads fast, that was one
> >> of the
> >> >> goals, in fact, I use it as a common text editor ;-). After
> >> that you
> >> >> can create visual applications using the visual part and yes,
> >> it's
> >> >> truly RAD
> >> >>
> >> >> -Also you are not forced to develop applications in a fixed
> >> way, that
> >> >> is, if you don't like to develop websites using the
> >> components, the
> >> >> VCL has support for template engines (included Smarty support,
> >> but
> >> >> more can be developed easily in pure PHP) so you can keep your
> >> graphic
> >> >> artist generating HTML + CSS + Images and then add the live
> >> part on
> >> >> that templates using the IDE.
> >> >>
> >> >> And finally, remind the VCL for PHP is completely OpenSource,
> >> this is
> >> >> something really nice because it will be a live project and we
> >> will
> >> >> accept patches and third-party components to be integrated
> >> into and
> >> >> shipped with future versions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> ===========
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2/22/07, Stefan Mueller < muellers at orcl-toolbox.com
> >> <mailto:muellers at orcl-toolbox.com>> wrote:
> >> >>> Well .. the question is how easy is the integration done in
> >> "Delphi for
> >> >>> PHP".
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My first tests showed that VS2005 & ASP.NET <http://ASP.NET>
> >> AJAX is actually much
> >> >>> easier to
> >> >>> use than PHP & XAJAX.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I hope Delphi for PHP has some smart mambo jambo wizardry to
> >> make
> >> >>> integration of this a bit easier.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Kind Regards,
> >> >>> Stefan Mueller
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
> >> <mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz>
> >> >>> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
> >> <mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz>] On
> >> >>> Behalf Of Jeremy North
> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:40 AM
> >> >>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 2007 and Delphi for PHP
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> AJAX ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> AJAX is just a framework. If PHP has AJAX extensions then it
> >> would be
> >> >>> silly if the CodeGear product couldn't support those
> extensions.
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