[DUG] Re: "PocketStudio" Whoops!

Wed Nov 22 10:27:13 NZDT 2006

It was sure as hell better than AppForge's solution. That needed the 800k or
whatever it was, runtime before you even got started. It was nice how it
utilising the Vb6 IDE, and anyone could develop an app. It was only Vb after
all :-)
It was a bit too slow in the end for what we needed, but PocketStudio was/is
great, but I have moved away from PalmOS now.

Jeremy 

-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On
Behalf Of Colin/Mina
Sent: 22 November 2006 10:18
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: [DUG] Re: "PocketStudio" Whoops!

Sorry on two counts,

  The URL I gave should have been www.winsoft.sk  and I didn't read your CE
requirement carefully enough.

Yes, PocketStudio is still a great application. Upgraded two years ago and I
understand another revision may be out early next year.

I'm very happy with the compiler for PalmOS development.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Sugrue" <jamessugrue at xtra.co.nz>
To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework

> That is for Palm only isn't it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] 
> On
> Behalf Of Colin/Mina
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2006 9:50 a.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework
>
> Maybe you should also consider "PocketStudio" by Winsoft. It's just like
> Delphi.
> www.winsoft.se
>
> Colin R Dillicar
> Colmin Associates
> Ph +64 9 834 4040
> colmin at ihug.co.nz
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Rose" <Alan at seabed.co.nz>
> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:30 AM
> Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework
>
>
>> Thank you for this advice. I am very soon to begin work on a PDA project
>> with WinCE 5.0
>> In your opinion should I even consider using Delphi. I am assuming the
>> next version of Delphi (highlander due in the first quarter of next
>> year) will support CF 2.0, but probably still no IDE designer support. I
>> think that's in the following release (end of 2007). I maybe wrong,
>> perhaps Richard can confirm this. I am glad you have posted this so I
>> adjust my time and costs for the project.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
>>> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On Behalf Of nodulus maximus
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2006 7:00 p.m.
>>> To: delphi at ns3.123.co.nz
>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework
>>>
>>> For info:-
>>>
>>> I've just completed a commercial Pocket PC project in .NET
>>> (unfortunately not in DELPHI).  Development for PDAs in the
>>> compact framework is satisfying in the end, but there can be
>>> considerable frustrations along the way!
>>>
>>> 1. Definitely use version 2 of the Compact Framework - there
>>> are many additions and improvements, including the addition
>>> of the serial communications class.
>>>
>>> 2. Make sure you apply SP1 as well - it fixes some subtle but
>>> annoying bugs.
>>>
>>> 3. Most applications will need to do some "PInvoke" calls to
>>> unmanaged code to provide the functionality that the CF Team
>>> chopped out from the full framework.  Development in Win CE
>>> provided access to a lot more needed functionality.
>>>
>>> 4. Some components like Microsoft's CF Tab control are so
>>> crippled as to be near useless for a professional
>>> application.  You will likely end up having
>>> to either subclass and create your own controls   or buy some
>>> third party
>>> controls to save time (generally a better option).
>>>
>>> 5. Beware of the differences between PDA models and
>>> manufacturers.  Make sure you develop/test on the target PDA
>>> for your Client.  One example is the difference in Bluetooth
>>> stacks but there are other subtle differences between devices
>>> e.g. the "path" to the CF card, serial port assignments, etc.
>>>
>>> 6. Unless you have access to an experienced "CF Guru" then
>>> allow considerably longer time for developing an application
>>> than you would estimate for a .NET desktop application.  The
>>> extra time is consumed in tasks like deployment via
>>> ActiveSync to the device for testing, resetting the device
>>> when it hangs, figuring out work-arounds for control or forms
>>> issues, posting to forums to find answers, prototyping to
>>> check out architectural ideas, etc.
>>>
>>> 7. Download one of the free PDA registry editors and use it.
>>> There are also some "Pocket Tweak" programs for altering
>>> things like scrollbar widths (the latter can be important
>>> since screen real-estate is at a premium on a PDA).
>>>
>>> 8. Download a free "soft reset" program for the PDA.  You'll
>>> likely find you have to do this quite often during
>>> development, depending on what the application is.
>>>
>>> 9. There's a registry setting for ActiveSync that you can set
>>> to avoid the annoying pop-up window every time you "connect"
>>> to a device (i.e. plug it in to the cradle).
>>>
>>> 10. When looking on the web for articles relating to compact
>>> framework development make sure that they are for the correct
>>> version of framework (i.e. the one you are developing in).
>>> Remember that there's CF1.0, CF1.x, CF2.0 plus service pack
>>> variants.  There are differences between versions on things
>>> like threading and changing controls on the main thread from
>>> a background thread, etc.
>>>
>>> 11. If you post to one of the Microsoft compact framework or
>>> mobile device forums don't expect a quick response!
>>>
>>> Eric Apperley
>>> Eric Apperley & Associates Limited
>>> Consulting Engineers - Automation
>>> Christchurch
>>>
>>>
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