[DUG] Re: "PocketStudio" Whoops!

Wed Nov 22 10:17:43 NZDT 2006

Sorry on two counts,

  The URL I gave should have been www.winsoft.sk  and I didn't read your CE 
requirement carefully enough.

Yes, PocketStudio is still a great application. Upgraded two years ago and I 
understand another revision may be out early next year.

I'm very happy with the compiler for PalmOS development.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Sugrue" <jamessugrue at xtra.co.nz>
To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework

> That is for Palm only isn't it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] 
> On
> Behalf Of Colin/Mina
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 November 2006 9:50 a.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework
>
> Maybe you should also consider "PocketStudio" by Winsoft. It's just like
> Delphi.
> www.winsoft.se
>
> Colin R Dillicar
> Colmin Associates
> Ph +64 9 834 4040
> colmin at ihug.co.nz
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Rose" <Alan at seabed.co.nz>
> To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:30 AM
> Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework
>
>
>> Thank you for this advice. I am very soon to begin work on a PDA project
>> with WinCE 5.0
>> In your opinion should I even consider using Delphi. I am assuming the
>> next version of Delphi (highlander due in the first quarter of next
>> year) will support CF 2.0, but probably still no IDE designer support. I
>> think that's in the following release (end of 2007). I maybe wrong,
>> perhaps Richard can confirm this. I am glad you have posted this so I
>> adjust my time and costs for the project.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
>>> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On Behalf Of nodulus maximus
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2006 7:00 p.m.
>>> To: delphi at ns3.123.co.nz
>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] D2006 and compact framework
>>>
>>> For info:-
>>>
>>> I've just completed a commercial Pocket PC project in .NET
>>> (unfortunately not in DELPHI).  Development for PDAs in the
>>> compact framework is satisfying in the end, but there can be
>>> considerable frustrations along the way!
>>>
>>> 1. Definitely use version 2 of the Compact Framework - there
>>> are many additions and improvements, including the addition
>>> of the serial communications class.
>>>
>>> 2. Make sure you apply SP1 as well - it fixes some subtle but
>>> annoying bugs.
>>>
>>> 3. Most applications will need to do some "PInvoke" calls to
>>> unmanaged code to provide the functionality that the CF Team
>>> chopped out from the full framework.  Development in Win CE
>>> provided access to a lot more needed functionality.
>>>
>>> 4. Some components like Microsoft's CF Tab control are so
>>> crippled as to be near useless for a professional
>>> application.  You will likely end up having
>>> to either subclass and create your own controls   or buy some
>>> third party
>>> controls to save time (generally a better option).
>>>
>>> 5. Beware of the differences between PDA models and
>>> manufacturers.  Make sure you develop/test on the target PDA
>>> for your Client.  One example is the difference in Bluetooth
>>> stacks but there are other subtle differences between devices
>>> e.g. the "path" to the CF card, serial port assignments, etc.
>>>
>>> 6. Unless you have access to an experienced "CF Guru" then
>>> allow considerably longer time for developing an application
>>> than you would estimate for a .NET desktop application.  The
>>> extra time is consumed in tasks like deployment via
>>> ActiveSync to the device for testing, resetting the device
>>> when it hangs, figuring out work-arounds for control or forms
>>> issues, posting to forums to find answers, prototyping to
>>> check out architectural ideas, etc.
>>>
>>> 7. Download one of the free PDA registry editors and use it.
>>> There are also some "Pocket Tweak" programs for altering
>>> things like scrollbar widths (the latter can be important
>>> since screen real-estate is at a premium on a PDA).
>>>
>>> 8. Download a free "soft reset" program for the PDA.  You'll
>>> likely find you have to do this quite often during
>>> development, depending on what the application is.
>>>
>>> 9. There's a registry setting for ActiveSync that you can set
>>> to avoid the annoying pop-up window every time you "connect"
>>> to a device (i.e. plug it in to the cradle).
>>>
>>> 10. When looking on the web for articles relating to compact
>>> framework development make sure that they are for the correct
>>> version of framework (i.e. the one you are developing in).
>>> Remember that there's CF1.0, CF1.x, CF2.0 plus service pack
>>> variants.  There are differences between versions on things
>>> like threading and changing controls on the main thread from
>>> a background thread, etc.
>>>
>>> 11. If you post to one of the Microsoft compact framework or
>>> mobile device forums don't expect a quick response!
>>>
>>> Eric Apperley
>>> Eric Apperley & Associates Limited
>>> Consulting Engineers - Automation
>>> Christchurch
>>>
>>>
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