[DUG] FYI Oracle make free entry level 4Gb userdatabaseavailalable

Sat Nov 12 19:21:32 NZDT 2005

This is where it is up to ..

 . . .I think the exception is being taken by people reading this phrasing
in the license:

"You may not use the Software for any commercial or production purpose. "

Instead of it being written (as other software houses do) :--

"You may not use the BETA Software for any commercial or production
purpose. "

The difference in Oracle choosing the first course of action does not escape
people in today's world. If it were an oversight, might they not want to
correct it?

And then in the FAQ

"Who should use Oracle Database XE? . . .

• Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) who want to embed an Oracle
database in their application or product to extend customer value at no
additional cost

Indeed the two do not match up in a major way.

Paul

On 04/11/05, Paul A Norman <paul.a.norman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Oracle's response so far has been a sort of side-stepping red tapeish
> approach.
>  They have a forum you have to register for to pose the question. But to
> register for it you have to answer *compulsory* questions by radio check
> box, which can not be answered unless you have already downloaded the
> software.
>  But I can not agree to their terms and conditions in downloading the
> software until they explain the apparent inconsitancies that Paul Heniz
> (above) has rightly pointed out between their promotional material and their
> small print in the license you have to agree to.
>  So I have not downloaded the software, and can therefore not answer their
> questions, and so can not enter their dedicated forum for people who have
> downloaded the software, to ask them about downloading the software!
>  John Cleese is in town isn't he? Sort of seems like that . . .
>
>
>  On 02/11/05, Paul A Norman <paul.a.norman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I believe it warranted it.
> >
> > On 02/11/05, Stefan Mueller <muellers at orcl-toolbox.com > wrote:
> > >
> > >  <flame>
> > >
> > > A bit shorter to the point would have been nice …nobody likes to read
> > > a 5 page copy/paste.
> > >
> > >  For the next time:
> > >
> > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > >
> > > </flame>
> > >
> > >   .. but I am sure you will get an answer anyway from one of the
> > > product managers.. and I am curious as to what it will be!
> > >
> > >  Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Stefan Mueller
> > >
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:
> > > delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] *On Behalf Of *Paul A Norman
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2005 6:00 PM
> > > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > > *Subject:* Re: [DUG] FYI Oracle make free entry level 4Gb
> > > userdatabaseavailalable
> > >
> > >  I've just made a post quoting the concerns here on an Oracle Forum,
> > > wiil relay what ever comes forward there, for those with one of those Oracle
> > > (free beer?) sign ins:
> > > http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=337407
> > >
> > >  Paul
> > >
> > >  On 02/11/05, *Paul A Norman* < paul.a.norman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From the associated offical FAQ, this information needs to be
> > > reconciled to the above license details, I think Oracle would have a hard
> > > time of it in an American Court:
> > >
> > >     *Who should use Oracle Database XE? *
> > >
> > > Oracle Database XE is the perfect choice for many different groups,
> > > including:
> > >
> > > · • *Developers *working on PHP, Java, .NET, and other applications
> > > that require a database
> > >
> > > · • *DBAs *who need a free starter database for training and
> > > deployment
> > >
> > > · • *Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) *who want to embed an Oracle
> > > database in their application or product to extend customer value at no
> > > additional cost
> > >
> > > · • *Educational institutions and students *who need a free starter
> > > database for their curriculum.
> > >
> > >  *Can I use Oracle Database XE for free development? *
> > >
> > > Yes. There are no database license costs associated with developing
> > > applications for Oracle Database XE which offers the complete integrated set
> > > of Oracle Database programming interfaces including:
> > >
> > > · • SQL, PL/SQL
> > >
> > > · • Java, C, and PHP
> > >
> > > · • Windows .Net
> > >
> > > · • Oracle HTML DB
> > >
> > > · • C++, ODBC, OLE DB
> > >
> > >  *Can I use Oracle Database XE for free deployment? *
> > >
> > > Oracle Database XE is free for runtime usage with the following
> > > limitations:
> > >
> > > · • Supports up to 4GB of user data (in addition to Oracle system
> > > data)
> > >
> > > · • Single instance only of Oracle Database XE on any server
> > >
> > > · • Only uses and executes on one processor in any server
> > >
> > > · • Can use up to 1GB RAM
> > >
> > >  *1 *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   On 02/11/05, *Richard Vowles* < Richard.Vowles at borland.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Now _that_ was worth knowing.
> > >
> > >  ---
> > >
> > > Richard Vowles, Solutions Architect, Borland New Zealand
> > >
> > > email: richard.vowles at borland.com
> > >
> > > phone: +64-9-9184573
> > >
> > > cell: +64-21-467747
> > >
> > > other: MSN richard.vowles at borland.com, skype: rvowles
> > >
> > >   ------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Paul Heinz
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 November 2005 3:14 p.m.
> > > *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > > *Subject:* RE: [DUG] FYI Oracle make free entry level 4Gb user
> > > databaseavailalable
> > >
> > >  Ah, yes. But do read the fine print i.e. the license agreement,
> > >
> > >  TTFN,
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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