<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
pre
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
{mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
font-family:"Consolas",serif;
mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ;}
span.EmailStyle20
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-NZ" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">😊</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz <delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alister Christie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 December 2020 1:46 pm<br>
<b>To:</b> Sean Cross <Sean.Cross@catalystrisk.co.nz><br>
<b>Cc:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi@listserver.123.net.nz><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Power laptops<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> 64GB RAM, 640k... I mean 64GB should be enough for anyone... <br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<pre>Alister Christie<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Computers for People<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ph: 04 471 1849<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://www.salespartner.co.nz" target="_blank">www.salespartner.co.nz</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>PO Box 13085<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Johnsonville<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Wellington<o:p></o:p></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:27 AM Sean Cross <<a href="mailto:Sean.Cross@catalystrisk.co.nz">Sean.Cross@catalystrisk.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dell XPS 17. Small for a 17” laptop and easily user upgradable to several TB of SSD (2 slots) and 64GB RAM.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u>Sean</u><b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6A737B">________________________________</span></b><b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy"><br>
</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#009AC8">Sean Cross</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6A737B">| Chief Development Architect<br>
<b>T</b> +64 21 270 3466</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a> <<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul A. Norman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 8 December 2020 10:23 am<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <<a href="mailto:delphi@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi@listserver.123.net.nz</a>>; Alister Christie <<a href="mailto:alister@salespartner.co.nz" target="_blank">alister@salespartner.co.nz</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Power laptops</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">We're also looking around at the moment ...<br>
<br>
Gaming machines yes, gone that way before and never played a game on it (!) — for something really robust (advanced video editing etc as well) have a look at at the:<br>
<br>
ASUS ROG Strix SCAR GL532 15.6" Full-HD IPS 240Hz 3ms 8xCorei7-10875H 64GB 1T/NVMe RTX2070/8G MetalTop TypeC PreKeyRGB WIFI6 Keystone 2YrWrty<br>
<br>
Within NZ, so far JustLaptios are looking well positioned, sucessfully had stuff from them in the past, had unpleasant support issues at another large computer retailer here in Auckland (- any one with other information please?).<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.justlaptops.co.nz/asus-rog-strix-scar-gl532-15-6-full-hd-ips-240hz-3ms-8xcorei7-10875h-64gb-1t-nvme-rtx2070-8g-metaltop-typec-prekeyrgb-wifi6-keystone-2yrwrty-rrp-3779-13460?search=RTX2070&description=1&sort=pd.name&order=ASC&limit=100" target="_blank">https://www.justlaptops.co.nz/asus-rog-strix-scar-gl532-15-6-full-hd-ips-240hz-3ms-8xcorei7-10875h-64gb-1t-nvme-rtx2070-8g-metaltop-typec-prekeyrgb-wifi6-keystone-2yrwrty-rrp-3779-13460?search=RTX2070&description=1&sort=pd.name&order=ASC&limit=100</a><br>
<br>
The RTX 2070 has a good crop of cuda-cores for graphics/video rendering.<br>
<br>
You'd probably want to upgrade the Windows 10 Home 64-bit to Professional.<br>
<br>
Yes as you say "gaming machines" are extendable – "you can add either 1/2TB PCIE NVME SSD to the slot 2 and 3 at a cost of:<br>
$215 for 1TB<br>
$435 for 2TB"<br>
<br>
If you can put up with a non sRGB primary laptop screen (only 66% of the gamut) for non-graphics work only, the advanced Ryzen in various releases (series 5 and up) is available here in NZ as well, in often quite robustly speced and rugged gaming machines,
often at a more reasonible cost.<br>
-- <br>
<a href="https://PaulANorman.info" target="_blank">https://PaulANorman.info</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On December 8, 2020 9:26:04 AM GMT+13:00, Alister Christie <<a href="mailto:alister@salespartner.co.nz" target="_blank">alister@salespartner.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If you are wanting something with lots of grunt then AMD is currently king - Ryzen 7 4800H (or HS) for the highest performance or 4800u for mobility. I've been looking for something
with a 4800U with 16GB Ram for a while, with no luck.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="https://www.ultrabookreview.com/36030-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-laptops/" target="_blank">https://www.ultrabookreview.com/36030-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-laptops/</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I've been thinking about a Zenbook 14, but they only seem to be available with 4700u CPUs (no hyperthreading, although still 8 cores). Some of the 10th/11th "U" Gen i7's have better
single-core performance than the 4800U. If you are after a beast then a gaming laptop with an R9 4900H might be your best bet. Gaming laptops are often quite upgradable in terms of memory and SSD/NVMe, but usually are quite heavy, with big power bricks.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Something that charges over USB would also be nice, so you can use one of the new tiny GaN chargers.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sorry for the late reply.<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<pre>Alister Christie<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Computers for People<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ph: 04 471 1849<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://www.salespartner.co.nz" target="_blank">www.salespartner.co.nz</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>PO Box 13085<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Johnsonville<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Wellington<o:p></o:p></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:38 PM John Bird <<a href="mailto:johnkbird@xtra.co.nz" target="_blank">johnkbird@xtra.co.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Another topic I would love feedback on – I have had sterling service from my reliable HP Envy laptop – it is still power specs even today
(I7 CPU, 16GB RAM, originally 2TB HDD – now SSD, 17” 1920x1080)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">but it is 7 years old and no more RAM upgrade possible (only DDR3) , and looking around for a replacement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">So far best candidates I have seen are</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">HP ZBook 17 G6 or G7 (4 DDR4 slots up to 128GB and up to 2 M2 SSDs and 2 Sata SSDs)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Lenovo Thinkpad P53</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dell 7530 or 7730</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I would like your opinions of favourite power laptop and what you particularly love about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">_______________________________________________<br>
NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list<br>
Post: <a href="mailto:delphi@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi@listserver.123.net.nz</a><br>
Admin: <a href="http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi" target="_blank">http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi</a><br>
Unsubscribe: send an email to <a href="mailto:delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">
delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz</a> with Subject: unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>