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</head><body text="#000000">Hi all,<br>
As a pretty inexperienced Delphi developer, I've been reading the
comments about the cost of Delphi upgrades with some interest. I'm still
using D7 (no comments please!), mainly due to limited resources in
obtaining a current version in my current situation - it's a long story.<br>
But I would be interested in some constructive comments (no flame war
please!) on how something like Lazarus and FPC stacks up against modern
Delphi (Jan noted that open source is improving).<br>
Thanking you in advance for any helpful contribution.<br>
<span>Jan Bakuwel wrote on 7.09.2020 3:38 p.m.:</span><br>
<pre wrap="">Hi Jeremy, Tony et al,
It could well be that Delphi is being milked for the value that's left
in it and then gets dumped. It's a common strategy in a world where
equity firms main focus is on getting something for nothing. The whole
perpetual must-upgrade process is of course by design. A "breaking"
release once every 5 or even 10 years and an active strategy on fixing
bugs would indeed be very welcome.
As you say, it is what it is. I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately the
alternatives are getting better every day, especially open source
platforms & frameworks.
On 7/09/20 10:40 am, Jeremy Coulter wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">As much as I love Delphi, the component installation process has
always bugged me, but I just put it down to it just being one of the
things to deal with. It does mean you have to have a thinking about
and plan your upgrades, which is a good thing.
We heard back from Embarcadero and we didnt get very far with our pricing.
We have renewed out lics because we were running out of time, but I
suspect that this might be our last upgrade year as well. I cant speak
for other teams that use it at my workplace, but when we are getting
significant price breaks from M$ its just too hard to look my manager
in the eye when she sees the prices.
And look. I realise that M$ and Emb are at different ends of the
company size spectrum and M$ can prob. afford to do it, Its just a shame.
Anyway, it is what it is.
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 10:20 AM Tony Blomfield
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Greetings Jeremy, Jan et al.
I have used Delphi since 1994 and completed at least 100
I agree with your comments below. IT is simply too expensive. I
use DevX, Report Builder, TChart Pro, and TRichview in addition.
The cost is simply far too high, and every new release means I
have to install all of the above which can take up to a week.
The cost is simply too high.
Delphi lacks the sort of rich functionality that I need, and so I
have to purchase these other tool sets.
This could be fixed either by Embarcadero limiting their releases
to once every 5 years, or by working closer with these companies
Consequently 10.4 is probably my last subscription to them sadly.
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