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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sideline comment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They recently called my by phone to offer
me an upgrade from XE. Possibly not so much running to the bank these days. I used
Professional, no company to pay, one-man-band. Gave up <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place>
for semi retirement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Geoff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=1 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:7.5pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Geoff & Jacquie Jenkins, State Electronics,<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">1576 Weranui Road</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
RD 1<br>
Silverdale 0994<br>
Ph 09 9581000</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Jolyon Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 28 July 2015 12:28
p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NZ Borland Developers Group - <st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] EMBARCADERO MY
GRIPE</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>@Tony - It's not
"anti-D". imho Far from it. It's anti-E, which is
if anything pro-D if you have any genuine concern for the continued future of
D.<br>
<br>
Besides, consider this: When you are unhappy with the way your country is
being run is it unpatriotic to voice your dissatisfaction and to say why
? Should all such dissenting opinion be suppressed ? Certainly
there are countries where that is the case but I am equally certain they are
not the sort of regime we aspire to.<br>
<br>
No. You criticise the government and - if convinced - vote to have them
removed at the next opportunity. Debating the matter is actively
encouraged as part of that process.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There are some parts
of the <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> "Community" which are
close to being a "Delphic State" in this regard: Thou shalt not
criticise the Holy E.<br>
<br>
<br>
"They must surely be aware of their shortcomings"<br>
</span></font><br>
And it is illuminating that they use these shortcomings to exploit those
customers who are locked in (or suffering from a terminal case of Stockholm
syndrome). To wit, releasing XE8 knowing - as they surely did - that it
was barely usable, at the same time as making SA <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>mandatory</span></b> in order to obtain Update #1 which they surely knew
was going to be required.<br>
<br>
Never was "<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Laughing all the way to the
bank</span></i>" more apt.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>XE4 was the last solid release that I am aware of and use on a day to
day basis, for Win32 development (since I don't use <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place>
for anything else this is all that matters to me).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 28 July 2015 at 12:06, Tony Blomfield <<a
href="mailto:tonyb@precepthealth.com" target="_blank">tonyb@precepthealth.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I am still running XE2. I can’t imagine any
company making such a bad release as XE2. The number of regression issues must
have numbered in the thousands. Even the Fixpack only covered the blatantly
obvious ones. Since then I have been very reluctant to take another product
from them, but in a moment of stupidity purchased XE7 and the maintenance pack
thinking this was the end of the problems.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>In summary I think this is just a bad
company to do business with. They must surely be aware of their shortcomings,
but there is no sign they intend to up their performance.</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'> <a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Steve Peacocke<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 28 July 2015 9:31
a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NZ Borland Developers Group - <st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] EMBARCADERO MY
GRIPE</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Have
you seen the price for <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place>?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Where?
What website? I haven't found any prices. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Last
time I updated from Delphi 7 to XE2 it cost me an arm and a leg to get LESS
than I had with <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> 7. Apparently
"Professionals" don't do any professional programming any more and I
will have to upgrade again to be an <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Enterprise</st1:place></st1:City>,
just to get the same functionality I had been used to as a Professional.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Tue,
Jul 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Jeremy Coulter <<a href="mailto:jscoulter@gmail.com"
target="_blank">jscoulter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>have
you seen the PRICE for Xamarin?? <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> is
certainly cheaper!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Tue,
Jul 28, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Tony Blomfield <<a
href="mailto:tonyb@precepthealth.com" target="_blank">tonyb@precepthealth.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Can anyone advise how to access the upgrades
that I should be entitled to ?</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The issue I have relates to my account.
Having finally been talked into the supposed benefits of a maintenance contract
I purchased same back in January.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>They pestered the hell out of me about
payment. Apparently their system could not process a Master card.</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Finally we got that resolved somehow, but I
never received an invoice, licensing or anything else.</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>After much tooing and froing I finally got a
license and duly installed XE7. Never have I seen an invoice. Actually I
have never upped anything to Xe7 because its such a major event to upgrade
large projects in <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place>, and clearly it was
just another WIP. Finally yesterday I decided to try out XE8 after hearing from
this group that its usable.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I went to my account and there is no sign of
any XE8 upgrade or maintenance. I called Embarcadero all day and got no answer.
I sent two Emails and at 11PM last night got a very vague and unhelpful
response</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I am fed up with Embarcadero and the lies an
deceit and the high cost of ownership. We are 50% .NET and 50% <st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place>. Unless I get some solution on this today I am
going to direct the company to move to 100% .NET over the next 12 months and
use Xamarin. </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'> <a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jolyon Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 28 July 2015 7:50
a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NZ Borland Developers Group - <st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] EMBARCADERO</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think
perhaps it's a question of context. They were pretty slow in responding
when I had to contact them regarding an increase in my SA renewal in
contravention of their own terms and conditions (the required notice was not
provided, they simply presented an invoice with an increased amount).<br>
<br>
They took their own sweet time to respond and when they did they simply
referred me to the clause in the terms and conditions allowing them to increase
the renewal by up to 5%. This even included the required notice period
which they had completely ignored !!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yet for
some reason they LOVE sending me marketing emails, frequently and often
duplicated, even though I have specifically unsubscribed from all their spam
lists and opted out of ALL communications in my EDN accounts. It's almost
as if the Unsolicited Electronic Messages Act (2007) does not exist (and yes I
have directed their attention to this and their violation of it,
repeatedly). And yes, they are covered by that act since they are "</span></font><font
size=4 color=black><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.5pt;color:black'>an
organisation that carries on business or activities in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ>." (8.2.b in the act).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
As for the SA renewal, I eventually got them to retract their invoice and
re-submit at the previous rate, which I then took great pleasure in declining
to renew.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Good
luck.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 27
July 2015 at 20:02, Tony Blomfield <<a href="mailto:tonyb@precepthealth.com"
target="_blank">tonyb@precepthealth.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>OK Il wait. Maybe I am being too touchy.
Thanks a lot.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'> <a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeremy Coulter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 27 July 2015 7:00
p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NZ Borland Developers Group - <st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] EMBARCADERO</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Its not
a holiday in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>?
I too have always found them pretty responsive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jeremy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon,
Jul 27, 2015 at 6:07 PM, David Brennan <<a
href="mailto:dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz" target="_blank">dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi,</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’ve found them pretty responsive of
late, but I guess all my contact has been emailing people I already have
details for rather than using the generic contacts.</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Perhaps try Malcolm Groves <a
href="mailto:Malcolm.Groves@embarcadero.com" target="_blank">Malcolm.Groves@embarcadero.com</a></span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Unless something has changed Malcolm is
quite high up in the Australian/Asian hierarchy, he may not be able to answer
your question directly but should be able to make sure that someone in the
right department gets in touch with you.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>David.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tony Blomfield<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 27 July 2015 5:38
p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NZ Borland Developers Group - <st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [DUG] EMBARCADERO</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Does this company actually exist ? Or is
it just a brief case co as a one man band.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>All attempts to contact them have
failed. Their phone in Oz is never manned and they never reply to Emails</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I just want to discuss my account with
them because it looks like they have ripped me off again over this supposed
maintenance pack and upgrades.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Does anyone have a contact for them ?</span></font><span
lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>No wonder everyone has walked away to
.NET or Xamarin or anything else.</span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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