<div dir="ltr">I think the issue in Auckland in general is an excellent developer cannot find salary more than NZ$120,000 a year. Have to switch to abap in sap to get that amounts of salary.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 July 2014 10:32, David Brennan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz" target="_blank">dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-NZ" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I find that very interesting too.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The difficult thing with software development is that differences in capabilities are heavily accentuated. So a good developer is several times better than an average developer while a below average developer is likely to make a negative contribution to the project (in that you would be better off replacing them with an empty seat). For reasonably complex programs the minimum bar can be higher such that anyone less than a great developer is going to be a mistake.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Unfortunately statistics dictates that average and below average developer are rather more common than great programmers… Maybe you got lucky with great programmers in Switzerland and got unlucky with your choices in NZ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stefan Mueller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 3 July 2014 10:07 a.m.</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington<u></u><u></u></div></div>
<p></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As a Swiss Delphi Developer living in New Zealand I find that interesting. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Switzerland isn’t exactly at the top of my mind when I think about the “value for bucks” for outsourcing work to – not because you don’t get the quality, but because salaries there are almost twice what you would have to pay here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Kind regards,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Stefan Müller</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">,<br>
R&D Manager</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br><br></span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;background:red">ORCL</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Toolbox Ltd.</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a> [<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Blomfield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 3 July 2014 9:29 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Gary.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If you would like to send the details to me I will have a chat with them.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Unfortunately we have had such a bad run with Kiwi Developers we moved our R&D over to Switzerland last year where we get much more cost effective results.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Anyway, I’d like to assess the person myself to see if they are suitable.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kind regards.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tony Blomfield<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a> [<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary T. Benner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 July 2014 2:32 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz" target="_blank">delphi@delphi.org.nz</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">HI All,</span> <u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">This just passed in if anyone can help:</span> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">Permanent Developer available in Wellington.</span></b> <u></u><u></u></p><p><b><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">Experienced Senior Delphi Developer looking for a permanent role in or around Wellington. </span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">Open to remote work. Also open to learning a new language if needed. Experienced in picking up code from others and looking after legacy systems as well as new development.</span></b> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">Also experienced as a Development Manager and Product Management.</span></b> <u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">Anyone with an opportunity can email me at <a href="mailto:gary@benner.co.nz" target="_blank">gary@benner.co.nz</a> and I'll pass it on.</span> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">cheers</span> <u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">Gary</span> <u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-family:"MS Sans Serif"">List Admin</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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