<div dir="ltr">As far as Windows itself is concerned there is no problem with instantiating a visual ActiveX - or any other window - in whatever thread you like. Well, there are complexities which you might call "problems", but they can be addressed with sufficient scaffolding in place.<br>
<br>The biggest problem in normal Delphi applications is that part of that scaffolding - the message pump - only operates in the main thread. If you create windows in background threads then you have to provide your own message loop for each of those threads to ensure that messages for/from those windows are correctly processed. <div>
<br></div><div>And if those windows involve interactions with windows in other threads then you will almost certainly have sychronization issues to deal with.<div><br>What you absolutely cannot do however is hand off creating a window/Active control to a background thread and then hope to reclaim that window/control on the main thread once the tedious business of creation and initialization is complete. A window has affinity with its creator thread. End of.<br>
</div><div><br><div>Creating windows on background threads is generally a level of complexity that is best dealt with by employing the Barge Pole pattern.</div><div><br></div>As in: Don't go anywhere near it!!! :)<br>
</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 July 2014 11:00, Robert Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@chreos.co.nz" target="_blank">rob@chreos.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div>Yup, strange. I understand the
drawings can require a lot of Ram but I would have thought that
would be allocated when the drawing is loaded !<br>
<br>
I also note their docs say the default is 256MB but you might want
to expand it to 512MB. Yet the default is actually 512. The
load time is remarkably slow also. 11 -12 seconds just to create
the component with you then need to initialise (1.5 s) before you
can use it. <br>
<br>
The user is very concerned they will have to wait 12s before
viewing an image for the first time. They would rather the our
app load 12s slower (i.e. create the ActiveX on startup). <br>
<br>
Would it be fair to say you can't create the visual ActiveX in a
thread? Wondering if anyone has any suggestions ?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Rob<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 3/07/2014 10:51 a.m., Jolyon Smith wrote:<br>
</div></div></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
<div dir="ltr">That's bizarre. What on earth do they need 512MB
of contiguous address space for ? In fact, since the solution
is to reduce the allocation to 256MB, they clearly <b>don't</b>
need it, so why ask for it in the first place ? O.o<br>
<br>
It makes you wonder whether they even really need 256MB either.<br>
<br>
The mind boggles.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 July 2014 10:21, Robert Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@chreos.co.nz" target="_blank">rob@chreos.co.nz</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Guys<br>
<br>
Just thought I would post the results of this for anyone
else wanting it in the future. Here is the fix from
Oracle. Interestingly it is all OS not just Windows XP
as suggested in the Oracle doc, I amusing Windows 7.<br>
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<h2 style="background:#777773"><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;text-transform:uppercase">Applies
to: </span></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Oracle
AutoVue Electro-Mechanical Professional - Version
20.2.2 and later<br>
Oracle AutoVue 3D Professional Advanced - Version
20.2.2 and later<br>
Oracle AutoVue EDA Professional - Version 20.2.2 and
later<br>
Oracle AutoVue Office - Version 20.2.2 and later<br>
Oracle AutoVue 2D Professional - Version 20.2.2 and
later<br>
Information in this document applies to any
platform.</span></p>
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<h2 style="background:#777773"><a name="146f951e7b8a3d2d_146f92d88abc32be_SYMPTOM"></a><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;text-transform:uppercase">Symptoms</span></h2>
</div>
<p><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">When
using the AutoVue Desktop Deployment ActiveX on
Windows XP and trying to create a new instance of
AutoVue the following error occurs:</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">"External
exception E06D736"</span></strong><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
<br>
</span></b><u><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Steps
to reproduce:</span></u></p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Using
an IDE build an AutoVue ActiveX project.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Try
to compile and run the project on Windows XP.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Notice
the error.</span></li>
</ol>
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<h2 style="background:#777773"><a name="146f951e7b8a3d2d_146f92d88abc32be_CAUSE"></a><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;text-transform:uppercase">Cause</span></h2>
</div>
<p><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The
problem is due an issue with Windows XP when
allocating 512MB of contiguous memory. </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-bottom:solid #c4d1e6 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 5.0pt 0cm">
<h2 style="background:#777773"><a name="146f951e7b8a3d2d_146f92d88abc32be_FIX"></a><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:white;text-transform:uppercase">Solution</span></h2>
</div>
<p><u><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Solution
steps:</span></u></p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Open
your <strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">autovue.properties</span></strong>
file (located in "<AutoVue install
folder>\bin").</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Locate
the line which start with "autovue.cmdline".</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Change
"-Xmx512m" to "-Xmx256m".</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Save the
change and test again.</span></li>
</ol>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Rob<br>
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On 24/06/2014 2:20 p.m., Robert Martin wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi<br>
<br>
The vendor is a little company called 'Oracle' !<br>
<br>
The software was provided by our client and I have
tried to register with Oracle for support but at this
stage can't get their web site to work. They keep
sending email confirmation emails but when I click the
'verify' link it fails. I guess thats the peril of
dealing with small back yard companies. That said
their web site is a million times better than SAPs,
their web site and support leaves a considerable
amount to be desired and I was just trying to purchase
a product !<br>
<br>
I have found a Oracle list that I have posted to but
no response as yet. Waiting for my post to be
checked.<br>
<br>
It's nice to see that people still reply to the Delphi
list :)<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Rob<br>
<br>
On 24/06/2014 2:11 p.m., Jeremy Coulter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">that was my next suggest, to run Delphi
in admin mode:-) Yeah it seems really weird. Is
the vendor no longer around or able to help?
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jeremy</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at
2:09 PM, Robert Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@chreos.co.nz" target="_blank">rob@chreos.co.nz</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Jeremy <br>
<br>
The application I get the error in is Delphi
(when I drop the component on the form)! I
have tried running Delphi as Admin and no
go. This is making me very sad !<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Rob
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 24/06/2014 2:02 p.m., Jeremy Coulter
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">What happens if your run
your app. in admin mode ? wondering
if its permissions........
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jeremy</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun
24, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Robert Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@chreos.co.nz" target="_blank">rob@chreos.co.nz</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div>Hi Jolyon<br>
<br>
Good suggestion :) I assumed
it was installed as the main
product / standalone app runs
fine. I downloaded and
installed the latest Java
runtime but alas still no go.
<br>
<br>
I have also tried registering
the ocx with regsvr32 and that
also fails. I have un
installed and re install
autovue but still no go. Not
sure if it is Delphi or
AutoVue<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Rob
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On 24/06/2014 12:34 p.m.,
Jolyon Smith wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">Do you have
the required Java
Runtime Environment
installed and configured
?<br>
<br>
I believe the AutoVue
ActiveX control is
merely a wrapper around
the underlying Java
based AutoVue
implementation, so
without the necessary
Java scaffolding the
ActiveX isn't going to
stand up.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
24 June 2014 11:54,
Robert Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@chreos.co.nz" target="_blank">rob@chreos.co.nz</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi<br>
<br>
I have an activeX
control for AutoVue
(CAD software) I am
trying to<br>
import into Delphi
XE2. I can import
the activeX and
install it into a<br>
package however when
I try to place the
control on a form I
get<br>
and 'External
exception'.
Subsequent attempts
to add it generate<br>
'ClassFactory cannot
supply requested
class'. I have done
a search on<br>
that message and
most results
indicate an issue
with installing an<br>
activeX or a bit
versioning issue. I
believe the version
installed is<br>
32Bit.<br>
<br>
How can I test the
JvueAX.ocx file is
installed correctly,
is there an<br>
easy way to do this?<br>
<br>
Does anyone have any
suggestions on how
to resolve the
issue? We<br>
desperately need to
get this working !!!<br>
<br>
The version of
AutoVue we are using
is 20.2.2 (I believe
the most<br>
recent). I
installed it using
the ISDK and
DesktopDeployment
installers.<br>
<br>
I can post the
component wrapper if
that would help.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Rob<br>
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