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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">And there's no such thing as a free
lunch :(<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.appcelerator.com/plans-pricing/">http://www.appcelerator.com/plans-pricing/</a><br>
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On 02/05/13 22:40, Paul A Norman wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Here is my two bobs worth...<br>
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"Titanium Mobile Development Environment...
<div>( these figures speak for themselves...)<br>
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"Powered by the World’s Largest Open Source Mobile Community
454,534 mobile developers in 185 countries
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<br>
"We handle device and OS compatibility. You build rich
native apps.</div>
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<div>131,569,535 devices running Appcelerator- powered
applications</div>
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"Open source JavaScript-based SDK with over 5,000 APIs for
iOS, Android, Windows, Blackberry and HTML5"<br>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.appcelerator.com/platform/titanium-platform/">http://www.appcelerator.com/platform/titanium-platform/</a><br>
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<div style="">Or you can work in php, python, or ruby -- or
all four (including JavaScript)</div>
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<div style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://developer.appcelerator.com/blog/2013/04/adding-php-ruby-or-python-support-to-titanium-studio.html">http://developer.appcelerator.com/blog/2013/04/adding-php-ruby-or-python-support-to-titanium-studio.html</a><br>
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<div style="">Desktop Open Source cousin Project (can share
a lot of code with above)...</div>
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<div style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tidesdk.org/">http://www.tidesdk.org/</a><br>
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Create multi-platform desktop appswith HTML5, CSS3 and
JavaScript ( and or PHP, Python, Ruby)
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<div style="">Worth a look eh?</div>
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<div style="">Paul</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May 2013 16:48, Leigh Wanstead <span
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href="mailto:leigh.wanstead@gmail.com" target="_blank">leigh.wanstead@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with what Peter said.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May 2013 16:40, Peter
Ingham <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:ping_delphilist@3days.co.nz"
target="_blank">ping_delphilist@3days.co.nz</a>></span>
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<div>I agree with Joylon's comments in other
forums.<br>
<br>
Some guesses based on previous EMB history:
it will be 12 months until we see an Android
version (XE5). Which will prove to be very
raw. When a usable version comes out in XE6,
XE5 Android support will then be claimed to be
a "technology preview". You can also expect
that some excuse will be found for you to need
to pay extra all the way along the treadmill.<br>
<br>
Like Joylon, I fell for the marketing material
that came out with XE2, expecting that for
the upgrade price I would receive (within 6
months or so) a product that would provide
support for Win32/Win64/IOS/Android. "Bait
and Switch" by any other name.<br>
<br>
I've been a supporter of Delphi for a long
time, and have bought many upgrades over the
years. All the recent upgrades I've purchased
have <u>never</u> used for other than minor
experimental code, whilst their newer
licensing mechanisms remain a pain in the
rear.<br>
<br>
I certainly won't be holding my breath and
watching 1000's of other developers grabbing
market share whilst waiting, and waiting for
EMB to actually ship the product they promised
as XE2.<br>
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<br>
Regards<br>
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On 2/05/2013 3:56 p.m., Jeremy Coulter wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have Basic for Android which
is super cool, and good support plus other
nice things.....but the idea of using the
same (or at least close to) code for iOS and
android IS appealing.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 2, 2013
at 3:52 PM, Leigh Wanstead <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:leigh.wanstead@gmail.com"
target="_blank">leigh.wanstead@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Why not program in Java
which is free offered by Google? It is
fun to program in a different language
other than Delphi.
<div>If you want the speed, you can
program in C#. I am writing code in
C for android which is free too
using ndk-build. :-)<br>
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<div>Just my 2 cents</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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<div>Leigh</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May
2013 15:47, Jeremy North <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:jeremy.north@gmail.com"
target="_blank">jeremy.north@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I suspect no
one will tell you publicly.
Perhaps contact one of the
members of devrel directly.
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<div>It would be nice to see
a road map.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On
Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:34
PM, Jeremy Coulter <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:jscoulter@gmail.com" target="_blank">jscoulter@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All.
<div>I have had a look
around and I am
looking for SOME
sort of idea when
EMB. are looking at
releasing the
Android stuff? I am
trying to decide
whether or not to
buy the Software
assurance for the <span
style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;line-height:15px">Support
& Maintenance
- Mobile Add-On
Pack for Delphi
XE4 Professional </span><span
style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:15px">which
I am about to buy.</span></div>
<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:15px">Anyone
offer any time
frames - roughly.
if its not in the
next 12 mths I
wont bother.</span></div>
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<div><span
style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:15px">Thanks,
Jeremy</span></div>
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