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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for that feedback re Windows 8. I’ll keep an open mind then when my new machine arrives.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jason@software-solutions.co.nz<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 April 2013 7:56 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Planning PC upgrade - Delphi IDE options<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have used Windows 8 since the second beta (can’t remember the name) as my commercial development machine, I wouldn’t go back to Windows 7 if someone paid me, there is nothing bad about it, the start screen is a little different, but use it the same as you would windows 7 and there is no real user experience difference. The settings thing is a little annoying, but the speed is far better than Windows 7, so unless you are constantly changing settings (why?) then I can’t understand the bad press.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>To be honest most people that bag it are columnists trying to get traffic, people who are still stuck with the Windows XP is still the best (really?), Mac users (for which I am also) or the odd people who use linux. I have nothing against Linux or OSX, but if you want to write software for mass sales, windows is still the only option.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have also switched to XE4, and if anyone is looking at using firemonkey, then this is finally a version I would recommend. There are still a lot of things missing and it isn’t perfect, but in my app (I have been developing for over 1.5 years) it is far far quicker and stable. Even the OSX apps are running much quicker. I am keen to have a play with IOS dev with this now. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jason<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz">delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a> [<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Bird<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 April 2013 3:57 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Planning PC upgrade - Delphi IDE options<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>Its interesting nobody is keen to touch Windows 8... I have only played around with it some, and once I found where they moved things to found it quite fine...eg on the Metro screen there is no search box – you just start typing, and the search is very good. eg type “Resolution” and it shows how many documents, how many settings (etc etc) match that word.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>Its getting pretty hard to find a PC without Windows 8 on it these days – so:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>is there any real technical reason not use use Windows 8, ie why its worth the bother of putting on Windows 7 which is excellent. Is there some manner (apart from unfamiliarity or aesthetics) in which Windows 8 is technically inferior to Windows 7?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>I saw one Windows 8 PC, I7 processor, 256GB SSD and 1TB Hard Disk which booted from cold to Windows 8 login prompt in 7 seconds. Like that kind of speed.:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>John Bird<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>