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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No help on the rest, but:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>While on the topic of XE2 .... Anyone out there noticing any delays in the responses of the XE2 IDE ???</span></i><i><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am experiencing big delays (up to 30 seconds) in the code completion responding and also loss of the cursor after an editior window swap for up to 30 seconds. The embarcadero forum does not seem to have a Q&A area for these kind of things and I have not heard back from Malcolm Groves ((come in Malcolm :-)) about this. (ahh ! that feels better off my chest !)</span></i><i><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agree with this. I have an i7, 16GB, 64 bit win 7, top dual video cards, and SSD main drive. Still experience 10-20 second delays regularly in XE2. All other apps ok.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Graham Marsden<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 December 2011 1:12 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> delphi@listserver.123.net.nz<br><b>Subject:</b> [DUG] DUG] XE2 upgrade<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi John</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I upgraded from D2007 in November. </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1 - I am mulling whether to get just Delphi XE2 professional upgrade or RAD Studio XE2 upgrade....interested in playing/experimenting with RADPHP ? eg a simple version of one of my apps rewritten as a web app could be cool and useful... but its only a wish idea and might never get to it! Anyone think its worth the $300 extra for RAD Studio XE2 upgrade if I am pretty much a pure Delphi guy?</span></i><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I was also wanting to find a good web development platform and D4PHP (vers 2) looked promising as it would leverage my Delphi experience. There were a few issues I could not get past. Not sure it it was just me or D4PHP</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>* The help was no help at all.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>* There are critical but (almost) unexplained properties that must be set on controls to get things working right.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>* Need to know some Java to get the best from the experience. D4PHP assumes you know some Java.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>* To deploy to the web you neet your host to be using PHP 5.??</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>* The appearance of your page/controls is not really easily altered with the standard controls. There are other controls you can buy which look very good but once again a bit a learning experience with not much on line help.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Maybe the latest offering is improved on some fronts ??</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I would love to hear from anyone who has persisted with D4PHP and willshoot me down and help me out but at the moment D4PHP and therefore RADPHP is shelved.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2 ? If I get Delphi XE2 now and add the RadPHP later how much would that cost ? and is that a practical way to do it if I get it only when I need it...(ie does it install into the same IDE or is it then a totally separate product)</span></i><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Totally separate product.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>3 ? I understand that Rave Reports in D2007 is no longer in XE2 ? is this correct? I use the code based reports and a generic printing unit (load data on a form and use a generic function to turn the display into a report ? labels memos grids and all) ? I presume what is XE2 has some equivalent way of code based reports?. Can it output PDF as well? (Rave can)</span></i><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rave Reports Version 10 is in XE2. All reports seem to make the move to XE2 without issues. (phew !!)</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>PDF output is still an option. One strange thing - Version 10 is not mentioned at all on the nevrona web site.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I thought unicode was going to give me some headaches in upgrading apps from D2007 to XE2. These di not eventuate although I have to admit not actually using any unicode features. So maybe I will get the headache later when I do some unicoding.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>While on the topic of XE2 .... Anyone out there noticing any delays in the responses of the XE2 IDE ???</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am experiencing big delays (up to 30 seconds) in the code completion responding and also loss of the cursor after an editior window swap for up to 30 seconds. The embarcadero forum does not seem to have a Q&A area for these kind of things and I have not heard back from Malcolm Groves ((come in Malcolm :-)) about this. (ahh ! that feels better off my chest !)</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>HTH</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Graham Marsden</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>