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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The problem with this policy Embarcadero has is that Delphi 2007 is the last non Unicode and many (including us) are stuck on that because Unicode will inevitably introduce some bugs, take up a bit more memory and potentially slow things down which are all negatives for our biggest customers and given these customers are English speaking there is no upside for us to point to (they don’t really care that the software can then be made to support Japanese etc).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So upgrading to Delphi XE2 currently would be purely just to keep us in the upgrade loop with a valid version. We can’t use any version newer than the one we already have. And that sucks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Having said that there are sufficient new features in the language and the IDE appears to have stabilised enough with the recent versions that we MIGHT be able to make a commercial case for upgrading our applications to XE2. It is just a much harder case to make than if there was a switch to turn Unicode off (as I believe Jolyon has lamented in the past).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@listserver.123.net.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolyon Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 19 September 2011 9:32 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] XE2 upgrade<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://store.digitalriver.com/store?Action=DisplayCategoryProductListPage&SiteID=borland&Locale=en_NZ&categoryID=628800">http://store.digitalriver.com/store?Action=DisplayCategoryProductListPage&SiteID=borland&Locale=en_NZ&categoryID=628800</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Note that the NZ store is the "International USD Store" so prices are in USD.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Note also that as mentioned in my reply to John, upgrade pricing is only valid for D2007 licenses and later (D2009 and later from 1 Jan 2012)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 19 September 2011 09:18, Leigh Wanstead <<a href="mailto:leigh.wanstead@gmail.com">leigh.wanstead@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Where can I find the delphi xe2 price url?<br><br>Regards<br><span style='color:#888888'>Leigh</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2011/9/19 Jolyon Smith <<a href="mailto:jsmith@deltics.co.nz" target="_blank">jsmith@deltics.co.nz</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>iirc the (current) policy is "current and two previous versions"<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So for XE2 "current" = "XE" and two previous would be 2010 and 2009. Since they introduced the upgrade versions window "traditionally" they have extended an "upgrade amnesty" for the *next* older version until the end of the year following release of a new version. All of this would appear to still hold true this time around. From the Embarcadero online store product information page:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#4F4C4D;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";background:white'>Upgrade pricing is available to registered owners of 2007-XE versions of RAD Studio, Delphi or C++Builder; Professional, Enterprise or Architect editions.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#4F4C4D;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";background:white'>...<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#4F4C4D;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";background:white'>After Dec 31, 2011, only 2009-XE users qualify for upgrade pricing.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So your D2007 license will remain valid for upgrades until Dec 31 this year.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 17 September 2011 22:08, John Bird <<a href="mailto:johnkbird@paradise.net.nz" target="_blank">johnkbird@paradise.net.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am planning ahead for when I upgrade from D2007 to either XE2 or the next version – is there an existing deadline that D2007 as a valid upgrade version will expire? (ie after that I would have to buy a new version?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list<br>Post: <a href="mailto:delphi@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi@listserver.123.net.nz</a><br>Admin: <a href="http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi" target="_blank">http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi</a><br>Unsubscribe: send an email to <a href="mailto:delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz</a> with Subject: unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list<br>Post: <a href="mailto:delphi@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi@listserver.123.net.nz</a><br>Admin: <a href="http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi" target="_blank">http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi</a><br>Unsubscribe: send an email to <a href="mailto:delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz" target="_blank">delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz</a> with Subject: unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list<br>Post: <a href="mailto:delphi@listserver.123.net.nz">delphi@listserver.123.net.nz</a><br>Admin: <a href="http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi" target="_blank">http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi</a><br>Unsubscribe: send an email to <a href="mailto:delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz">delphi-request@listserver.123.net.nz</a> with Subject: unsubscribe<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>