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John,<br>
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I wouldnt go for Delphi 4 php - the vcl is a pointless exercise.
Debugging (when it works - it has a mind of its own) works really
well - all the delphi debugging facilities.<br>
<br>
If you want to go for Delphi for PHP, I would wait for the next
version.<br>
<br>
Or, my son says that eclipse should do the trick, but I havent tried
it.<br>
<br>
Rohit<br>
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On 5/06/2011 8:20 p.m., John C wrote:
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"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
use PHP already for many years and I like as it integrates
nicely and easily with HTML, CSS and JavaScript. And as
Rohit explained, no matter what language you use, for more
advanced application you got to learn HTML, CSS and
JavaScript any way! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Speed
might be an issue for some applications (?) but PHP is fast
enough for most applications (so why bother). I agree that
the debugging side of PHP is a bit poor, but that's all part
of website development I suppose. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: blue;">I
wanted to make a start with Delphi 4 PHP a couple of years
ago, but never got to it (should I?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: blue;">John
C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Rohit Gupta<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 5 June 2011 5:05 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Web development<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have been using PHP because I did not
want the server to be tied to MS. Its also very popular. I
started off with Delphi for PHP. But the investment in
learning it was wasted. The only thing I use it for is for
debugging now. There is no vcl in sight.<br>
<br>
Had t learn PHP, javascript, HTML and CSS. I think you have
to , if you want it efficient. Mine has to be as I am
targeting millions of users not just hundreds. It is my
spare time project too. Check it out if you want
7bfaces.com. You have to signup to see it and note its
work in progress.<br>
<br>
On 3/06/2011 4:57 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not doing this for a job but
working on my on applications at home in my spare time.
I've been programming for many years but not as a job
since about 2005.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My next project will be totally web
based and I've been thinking that I'd need to make the
move to RubyonRails at that point, but before I make that
commitment, I wondered if anyone was using Delphi
successfully on good advanced web projects - or something
else. I know the C#.NET argument is a pretty good argument
but for some reasons I'm resisting that move.<br
clear="all">
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Steve <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Berend
de Boer <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:berend@pobox.com">berend@pobox.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>>>>> "Steve" == Steve
Peacocke <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steve@peacocke.net">steve@peacocke.net</a>>
writes:<br>
<br>
Steve> Perhaps others have a better suggestion? What
do others<br>
Steve> use? Should I bite the bullet and jump to RoR
or upgrade to<br>
Steve> D2011 or something else?<br>
<br>
I mean, you're learning this for fun or for having a job?
Not sure how<br>
many RoR jobs there are in NZ.<br>
<br>
Some years ago I heard that most Delphi programmers went
to PHP. The<br>
PHP market in NZ is pretty robust, so that works.<br>
<br>
But if you want to stay in the Microsoft World, C# + ASPX
or whatever<br>
the greatest latest technology is from M$ would be the
best fit.<br>
<br>
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All the best,<br>
<br>
Berend de Boer<br>
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