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<DIV>I have found a couple of minor oddities like this with one program starting
another under Windows 7 – I also have a menu program that starts others, one of
them an update program. This update program does run but does not show
over other windows – mainly because I get a UAC prompt about allowing it, which
I do, and then the program runs OK but the main form does not maximise always,
but can see it on the task bar.</DIV>
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<DIV>Other things to check out are if the program stores data – eg in an ini
file on the same path as the application. If this is under the
“Program Files” folder you are very likely to get problems as this is a no-no
place to write data and Windows will try to move such files
elsewhere. Check the Activate or FormShow event of the program to
see if it is writing any data just in case.</DIV>
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<DIV>Also my firewall (COMODO) has a habit of blocking a newly built program by
saying its trying to install a global hook and asking me to OK that.
This blocks showing of the main form too. After OKing it there is still a
delay of several seconds until the form appears. Subsequent runs of
the same exe are OK.</DIV>
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<DIV>Aside - UAC is quite smart – I have deduced that a UAC permission can
inherit to a program started by the original process if it has been OK’d with a
UAC prompt, because subsequent runs of the program started by another will not
ask for UAC, as long as one of the previous programs that started it was granted
that permission. Restarting the programs concerned brings another
UAC prompt. (Lets not start a discussion here on the merits of UAC btw –
although my opinion is anyone from the Unix/linux world is likely to approve of
it).</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">John</DIV>
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<A title=kerscher@bellsouth.net href="mailto:kerscher@bellsouth.net">Charlie
Kerscher</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 15, 2011 11:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=delphi@delphi.org.nz
href="mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz">NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Delphi 2007 & Vista</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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class=Apple-style-span><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 13px"
class=Apple-style-span>I think that I found the culprit - Google Chrome.
When it is running the app doesn't appear outside or inside the IDE. When
it isn't running then it appears. Can't believe I've spent 12 hours
dealing with this because of Google/Vista
ugh<BR>Charlie</SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 5/15/11, David Brennan
<I><dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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David Brennan <dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz><BR>Subject: Re: [DUG]
Delphi 2007 & Vista<BR>To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List'" <delphi@delphi.org.nz><BR>Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 4:48
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<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">If
the form is off screen there is a way of getting it back. Focus the
application then do the following:</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hit
Alt-Space. That should bring up the windows menu (ie from the top left
of the window) for the current window. You may not be able to see it
though if the form is offscreen.</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Press
the down arrow once (this will move focus to the Move command). Hit
enter (to select Move). Do Ctrl-Left (as in left arrow key, or in fact
any of the arrow keys). This will move the window one pixel BUT more
usefully it also locks the form into drag mode with the mouse cursor.
Move your mouse now and the form should appear on screen following the
mouse cursor.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cheers,</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">David.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>David O'Brien<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 15 May 2011 1:27
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Delphi 2007 &
Vista</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">What
code is used to launch the programs?</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Charlie Kerscher<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 15 May 2011 1:18
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Delphi 2007 & Vista</SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal>David, I did as you suggested and
the program still doesn't appear. Oh, the settings are in
afd.ini.</P>
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<P class=yiv683604944MsoNormal>Charlie<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat,
5/14/11, David O'Brien <I><<A
href="wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=Dave@iccs.co.nz" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:Dave@iccs.co.nz">wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=Dave@iccs.co.nz</A>></I></B>
wrote:</P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"
class=yiv683604944MsoNormal><BR>From: David O'Brien <<A
href="wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=Dave@iccs.co.nz" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:Dave@iccs.co.nz">wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=Dave@iccs.co.nz</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [DUG] Delphi 2007 & Vista<BR>To: "NZ Borland Developers
Group - Delphi List" <<A
href="wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=delphi@delphi.org.nz" rel=nofollow
target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz">wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=delphi@delphi.org.nz</A>><BR>Date:
Saturday, May 14, 2011, 8:50 PM</P>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Where
does it store the positions? Registry or .ini file? Have a look
where the forms left and top are... Set them to 0,0.</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Charlie Kerscher<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 15
May 2011 12:38 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> NZ Borland Developers Group -
Delphi List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Delphi 2007 &
Vista</SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal>Thanks David, the original
application is Accounting for Delphi. It does, as best as I
can determine, "remember" last screen size/position. </P>
<DIV>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal>I can not start the other
programs (modules) although the task manager says they are
running.</P></DIV>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal>The curious thing, to me, is
that when I start the 'real' main menu, the splash screen
appears, the user id/pw screen appears and the "main" menu
screen appears. I even moved the main menu to a different
screen position and when I restarted the app the main menu
appeared where I had placed it. But when I select another
program/module from that main menu that program does
show.</P></DIV>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal>So I'm still at a lost as to
what to do.</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal>Charlie</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat,
5/14/11, David O'Brien <I><<A
rel=nofollow>Dave@iccs.co.nz</A>></I></B> wrote:</P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"
class=yiv683604944msonormal><BR>From: David O'Brien <<A
rel=nofollow>Dave@iccs.co.nz</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [DUG]
Delphi 2007 & Vista<BR>To: "NZ Borland Developers Group
- Delphi List" <<A
rel=nofollow>delphi@delphi.org.nz</A>><BR>Date: Saturday,
May 14, 2011, 8:19 PM</P>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Do
you save and restore the last positions of the
windows?</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ve
fallen into the trap of having left or top positions outside
the screen on start up.</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Also,
what code are you using to start the other programs? Can you
start them manually?</SPAN></P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Charlie Kerscher<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 15 May 2011
12:12 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>
delphi@delphi.org.nz<BR><B>Subject:</B> [DUG] Delphi 2007
& Vista</SPAN></P>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3>Hi, Until Wednesday I
was developing using an XP laptop with Delphi 2007 and
DBase files. My computer died and I borrowed my son's
laptop which has Vista. I installed Delphi 2007 with
the 3rd party controls, copied my program (.pas files)
and recompiled my program. Actually I did this with
two programs. The second one runs both within the IDE
and outside the IDE. The first program will load the
main form (outside of the IDE) but when I click a
button to open another form which is data dependent
the form doesn't show. Actually the application has
exe's that are called in the onclick event of the
buttons; for example order entry, inventory, customer
add/edit, etc. I click the order entry button and task
manager shows the exe is running; however the form
doesn't show on the laptop.</P>
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<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3>I sincerely appreciate
any suggestions.</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=yiv683604944msonormal3>Charlie
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