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From what I heard it will be native - although all I've heard are
rumors - certainly no statement of intent.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
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PO Box 13085
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On 29/11/2010 4:19 p.m., Jolyon Smith wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Is that Android 1.5? 1.6? 2.1? 2.2? Or will it
be 3.0?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Apart from that, isn’t a “target” for a compiler
a bit more than just an OS/platform/framework ... ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">If Delphi is to “target” Android then it must
target the CPU architectures that Android itself runs on
(with iPhone the distinction is blurred since only one phone
hardware platform runs the OS – iPhone the OS <b><i><u>is</u></i></b>
iPhone the hardware, to intents and purposes).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Android might be running on (currently)
ARM-Cortex A7, A8, or A9 (as far as I can tell – I am not
an Android owner or otherwise particularly interested in
Android, so this is based on a few mins with my learned
friend, Mr Google </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alister
Christie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:11<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] DelphiDroid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My understanding is that both Android and
iPhone are being actively experimented with as targets for the
compiler. We'll probably hear more once we have OS/X, Win64
and Linux support, which I suspect that it would be at last 2
years away<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Alister Christie<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Computers for People<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.salespartner.co.nz">http://www.salespartner.co.nz</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>PO Box 13085<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Johnsonville<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Wellington <o:p></o:p></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
On 29/11/2010 1:40 p.m., David Brennan wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">I think Jolyon
is right.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">The difference
between a proof of concept (which is basically what the guy
has now) and a robust tool which handles the majority of
Delphi features and libraries is enormous. Several orders of
magnitude sounds about right to me (meaning 100-1000 times
more difficult, or even more).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">I agree with
the general principle though that being able to build for
Android (and/or iPhone and others) would be great. However I
think the only way it could really be done in a decent way
is by Embarcadero continuing to extend the back end compiler
to support more and more target platforms. They have made a
few references in recent times which suggest they hope to do
this but only time will tell.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";">David.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Coulter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 29 November 2010 1:23 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Company closing</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">you should
download it and make it do more then :-)<br>
<br>
jeremy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Jolyon
Smith <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jsmith@deltics.co.nz">jsmith@deltics.co.nz</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is it a compiler? Technically I mean -
I'd call it a translator. :)<br>
<br>
I wonder how far it can go though, beyond the simple
examples I mean.<br>
<br>
Translating a push button and a call to ShowMessage() is one
thing. Being<br>
able to translate a complex application with all the
libraries that Android<br>
must support strikes me as a number of orders of magnitude
more complex.<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>]
On<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Behalf Of
Alister Christie<br>
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 12:39<br>
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
Subject: Re: [DUG] Company closing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interestingly the compiler is written
in C#<br>
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Alister Christie<br>
Computers for People<br>
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Johnsonville<br>
Wellington<br>
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<br>
On 29/11/2010 12:08 p.m., John Bird wrote:<br>
><br>
?<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lenniedevilliers.blogspot.com/2010/09/delphi-for-android-sneak-previ%0Aew.html"
target="_blank">http://lenniedevilliers.blogspot.com/2010/09/delphi-for-android-sneak-previ<br>
ew.html</a><br>
><br>
> Just checked out the DelphiDroid - not sure what
state its at but simple<br>
> examples are at least working - see a sneak peek
video at the above<br>
address.<br>
> Says been tested with "Delphi 6.0, 7.0, 2005, 2006
and 2010."<br>
><br>
> This is exactly the sort of tools we need - why
does Embarcadero not jump<br>
> onto this asap???<br>
><br>
><br>
> John<br>
><br>
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