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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>My comments in a lovely purple. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolyon Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 22 October 2010 8:53 a.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Aw nuts
you are just being a stirrer.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Why is pointing out facts considered stirring?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>You obviously have pretty strong feelings about it Jolyon but
you jumped on John pretty hard and if I was him I would certainly feel you were
being deliberately antagonistic. You didn’t just point out facts, you had an
axe to grind.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>Ø<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>What I am
saying is do not punish Borland and Embarcadero for making a product that was
reliable and well usable for 10+ years. Reward them by spending a
small amount of money to keep them in business. And into the bargain enjoy a
much better version of Delphi.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How about Embarcadero punishing their customers for not having
provided compelling reasons to upgrade?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>Aren’t they two sides of the same issue? Either
Embarcadero/Codegear/Borland haven’t added anything to Delphi since version 5
OR version 5 was so good that you didn’t need any of the things they added. You
believe the former and refuse to accept that perhaps part of the reason is that
v5 was so good. I (and apparently John) think you are wrong, sure some versions
didn’t add anything much I thought was useful but plenty of versions have added
features that are quite useful. But Delphi 5 was good enough that you could
happily ignore the useful new features and just stick with it (as we did until
very recently). Perhaps you could argue Embarcadero didn’t manage to add any ‘everyone
must have’ features but again that just comes back to Delphi 5 having such a
full feature set and being so functional.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>Delphi 4 (which Wallace has) was released in 1998! How many
other software products from 1998 can you still use reliably? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>I think Embarcadero limiting the upgrades could have been
managed a little better from a PR point of view but I can perfectly see why
they felt they had to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am
grumpy about buying 8 versions of Windows mainly because I couldn’t move the
licences from PC to PC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What? I bought a Windows XP upgrade to the “Me” that came
with a PC I bought some years ago. I have bought a number of PC’s – some
pre-built and some self assembled - since then but never had to buy another
copy of Windows, I just re-installed my existing XP license.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>I’m guessing you have never received an OEM version of Windows
then? I believe most copies of Windows sold are OEM which are locked (in
theory) to the computer they are sold with.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And why do you feel so less inclined to reward Microsoft for
making a reliable, well usable product when doing so costs far, FAR less than
rewarding Borland (who produced a couple of REAL stinkers, products that were
neither reliable nor even barely usable, over the years)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>Sounds like John has purchased 8 copies of Windows, you don’t think
that is rewarding them? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#5F497A'>Borland blew it in a major way around Delphi 8/2005, no question
about that and I can understand punishing them for it. But at some point it
becomes cutting off your nose to spite your face... anyone who develops
seriously in Delphi needs Delphi to be a viable commercial product and that means
being willing to pony up for some money occasionally in my opinion.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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