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I would have to agree, the later versions of Delphi are far more
productive, Delphi 2006 was pretty buggy - but I'd use it over D7
any day because of all the additional productivity features in it.
If you do any significant amount of coding, and your time is worth
more than $20/hr, you should probably upgrade (or buy a new license)
to the latest version of Delphi - and make an effort to learn it's
new capabilities (the time is the real expense). <br>
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If you upgrade from D4/5/6/7 to Delphi XE, and keep programming the
same way, you're certainly going argue that there are no new
features. But if you take some time and effort to train yourself on
the new features you will find yourself achieving so much more.<br>
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There are plenty of resources to up-skill yourself as well. There
is <a href="http://www.marcocantu.com/">Marco Cantu</a>'s books (<a
href="http://www.drbob42.com/">Bob Swart</a> has some also).
There is also hundred's of hours of <a
href="http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Videos">video</a><br>
and you can also monitor/subscribe to the <a
href="http://www.delphifeeds.com/">Delphi Feeds</a> page, which
has many useful articles and blog posts.<br>
<a href="http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Videos"></a>
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On 21/10/2010 4:36 p.m., John Bird wrote:
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<div>Well thats nuts.</div>
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<div>As a user of both Delphi 5 and D2007, you would have to
be nuts to want to work in D5 if you spend any time
programming. It works, and quite well, but D2007 and later
are so much nicer, and faster to do stuff. If you value
your time and are programming for anything returning money
then its worth it. Pro upgrades are only around 600-700 at
the moment anyway. pro includes pretty much all that was in
Enterprise back in D5 days....</div>
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<div>I actually reckon Embarcadero could well put a say a 10
year expiry on the IDE. Lots of commercial software is
much more brutal than that – for instance Window 2000 XP
(pre SP2) are now out of support, no security updates and
as we well know it really cannot be trusted without them.</div>
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<div>Or some kind of Turbo version. Or a free trial. Or
maybe Embarcadero could do a low use version – ie you pay $2
or $5 per hour that you use it. Otherwise a free
download. Now there’s a good idea!</div>
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<div>Languages like Delphi are a sort of cooperative
venture. Either you pay with your money for occasional and
rare updates or it dies.</div>
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<div>Otherwise get a free IDE like Eclipse, but these are also
cooperative enterprises - make sure you give a good amount
of time in enhancing them and improving them, otherwise you
are likewise riding off the work of lots of others.</div>
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<div>Like everything else, it comes down to the simple
equation of what works best for the dollars – “bangs for the
bucks”. I reckon the bang for the bucks with Delphi has
always been pretty good, especially after you can keep using
it for over 10 years. Over 10 years I estimate I have
purchased probably 8 versions of Windows. And I only have 1
pc at once...</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:42 PM</div>
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title="delphi@delphi.org.nz"
href="mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz">NZ Borland
Developers Group - Delphi List</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials</div>
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Wonderful questions.<br>
Edward Koryagin<br>
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--- On <b>Thu, 21/10/10, Marshland Engineering <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marshland@marshland.co.nz"><marshland@marshland.co.nz></a></i></b>
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From: Marshland Engineering
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marshland@marshland.co.nz"><marshland@marshland.co.nz></a><br>
Subject: [DUG] Delphi Specials<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz">delphi@delphi.org.nz</a><br>
Received: Thursday, 21 October, 2010, 3:03 PM<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I keep seeing
all these specials, but for the 2-3 programs
I write a year, Delphi 4 does the trick. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">It looks like
Embarcadero keeps itself going with existing
customers (which over time will diminish)
with "upgrades".</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Now if I was
starting out from fresh, would I spend
$3499 when there is a wealth of free
programs out there?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">TurboCAD and
Alibre for example both have an entry level
packages of less than $100 to get you
started. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Is there
something like this happening in the future
for Delphi? </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Cheers Wallace</font></div>
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