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Hi<br>
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I hate to disagree Leigh but ....<br>
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Your much more likely to die on the footpath ! Don't do it. If you
check the stats you will find by far and away the most accidents occur
on the footpaths (cars reversing and pedestrians).<br>
<br>
re cammerons comment<br>
I agree, The small % of cyclists cutting red lights etc give everyone a
bad name. In CHCH however I would say I see more cars cutting reds
than cyclists, not because cyclists don't but because cars so
frequently do (almost every light cycle). <br>
<br>
Rob<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ"><o:p></o:p></span>
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On 29/01/2010 3:35 p.m., Leigh Wanstead wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
ride bicycle in Auckland around 10 years. Auckland road
is not fit for riding bicycle. Most road does not have proper cycle
way. The
cycle way is not continuous. And the road suppose to ride bicycle is
only
around 20 cm wide and shared with cars. And car runs very fast. It is
so easy
to be hit by the car in Auckland. I guess riding bicycle is far more
easy to be
killed than driving car. So to look after myself not to be hit by the
car,
riding on pavement is quite acceptable. Anyway the pavement most of the
time is
empty.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
saw most car have four seats and only one driver sitting in
the car which wastes lots of natural resource moving around. Remember
we only have
one earth to live.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cameron Hart<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 29 January 2010 2:27 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; color: rgb(45, 58, 68);">Imho
it is not getting stuck behind bikes that gets car drivers
irate, but the flaunting of the road rules demonstrated by cyclists.
Car
drivers start thinking it is unfair every time they see one ride
through a red
light, or fail to indicate, or ride double/triple, or skip from road to
footpath as it suits, and unless everyones is following the same rules
it
starts to turn into two sides – them against us. You start
resenting cyclists because they are not following the rules you are
required
to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; color: rgb(45, 58, 68);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; color: rgb(45, 58, 68);">Maybe
they should address this imbalance by bringing into effect
some things like cycle licenses (so you know they are qualified and
even know
the road rules), headlights, brake lights, and indicators. Maybe they
need a WOF and cycle registration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; color: rgb(45, 58, 68);">Bring
us all onto an equal footing and more respect for cyclists
might be found. It is easy to be tolerant of others when it is a level
playing field.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 29 January 2010 10:23 a.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Apple iPad - OT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What an idiot. <br>
I think what most of the nasty drivers forget is that for every cyclist
on the
road its one less car for them to get stuck behind. However I must
admit
the Dyers pass road is terrible to drive up / down especially with the
Lycra
brigade riding two a breast up a thin winding road. No excuse for
nocking
people off the road or for driving a hummer !<br>
<br>
Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-NZ"> </span><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 29/01/2010 9:53 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Basically
the need for a bit more tolerance from both cyclists and
car-drivers to sharing the road.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Exacerbated
this week by a guy who lives in Cashmere, drives a
black Hummer (plate WARNIN with a surround that says "does not play
well
with others"), and who posted online this week that he had knocked 2
cyclists into the kerb in the last 6 months and was quite prepared to
do the
same again, but who subsequently half-heartedly apologised after he
realised
that he was easily identifiable as Richard Freeman, the co-owner of the
Sign of
the Takahe cafe/restaurant and a number of other businesses who look
like they
will be taking a bit of a dent in patronage from now on.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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page news in the Press on Wednesday I think it was.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Following
by an alleged case of car-passenger assault on a cyclist
at the bottom of Dyers Pass Road yesterday morning.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Neither
side are completely blameless, and it's a small minority on
either side who make it seem more of a car/cyclist war than it actually
is, or
than it should be.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Personally,
I'm glad I've got a commute that mostly sticks to
quieter roads than the main arteries.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert martin<br>
</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I come in from the other side (St Albans).
Whats
happening in Cashmere? I'm obviously out of the loop :)<br>
<br>
On 29/01/2010 9:23 a.m., Conor Boyd wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: blue;">Although
we won't mention the current Cashmere-based shenanigans.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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