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<p class=MsoNormal>I wouldn’t expect that at all. I forget the
details of why, but using the Forms unit unavoidably drags in a whole host of
VCL code. This is easily tested, just try compiling:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>program Vacuum;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>begin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>end.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>And you get an EXE of 22KB. Simply adding a “uses
Forms;”, even without referencing anything from the Forms unit in the “code”
and your equally non-functional vacuum.exe “explodes” to 382KB (BDS2006).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Having said that, 382KB is not exactly excessive “bloat”
in my book.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>So my question for the original poster is what criteria is
it that demands that the executable absolutely has to avoid this overhead?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>John Bird<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 January 2010 9:55 a.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] manually process Windows messages<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I would expect if you specify Forms (to get
Application.ProcessMessages) and only call that and nothing else from
Forms then you will only get what functions are needed linked into
your application - I suggest you try it and see how much bigger it makes the
application.</span><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve looked at what Application.ProcessMessages does but
I’m not sure what I need to get this working. Any thoughts
appreciated, or some code </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ross.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>Tauranga.</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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